Metallic dragons

Pathos Street · Post by **Pathos Street** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:33 pm

Semi-related question: What metal dragons do exist on Avlis?

Nob · Post by **Nob** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:56 pm

All types of metallic dragons exist, but whether they do so in large numbers is somewhat subject to debate.

Pathos Street · Post by **Pathos Street** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:10 pm

Nob wrote:All types of metallic dragons exist

So, to sum up, for future Search-users looking for specific key words:

Standard D&D metallic / good (i.e. Gold, Silver, Bronze, Brass, Copper) dragons DO all exist on Avlis (or did at one time). They were brought to Avlis by the/a Platinum dragon to aid the forces of good during the Great War.

Standard D&D chromatic / evil (i.e. Red, Black, Green, Blue, White, Brown, etc.) dragons DO NOT exist on Avlis and never have.

Instead of chromatic dragons, Avlis has its own menagerie of evil dragons called stone dragons, including but not limited to gravel, granite, coal and amber dragons. These were created by Mikon during the Great War, to balance out the power of the metallic dragons and keep the orcs from being driven to extinction.

Both stone and metallic dragons are rare, reclusive, and ancient things, so their existence, qualities and dispositions are not common IC knowledge.

Please correct anything that is incorrect in this post. I'll add the result to the wiki when I get a chance... thanks!

Nob · Post by **Nob** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:14 pm

There are also stone dragons that are hybrids of metallics and the original stones created by Mikon.

Fuzz · Post by **Fuzz** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:24 pm

When you say all types of metallics, does that include platinum? There's only like... 2 of those in D&D, I thought. The one in Dragonlance and one in... fuck if I know.

Moredo · Post by **Moredo** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:33 pm

Not liking this one bit, the elves and the dwarves decided to join the fairies in order to destroy the orcs once and for all. However, they felt that they did not have enough power between all three races to totally annihilate the orcs, so they decided to call on one more entity...His Most Splendid Majesty, the Platinum Dragon. This creature was a powerful entity that settled on Avlis some time past, and he had a small cult of dwarves and elves on Avlis, which caused him to be elevated to demigod status. Disliking orcs more than anything else, he was more than willing to help. His aid was given in the form of hordes of metallic dragons to aid the three good races. These were the first dragons to appear on Avlis aside from the Platinum Dragon himself. They were met with much fear and awe by all sides, and they quickly begun to obliterate all orcs and devils in sight.

Platinum.

http://www.avlis.org/wiki/index.php/The_Great_War

Tony Wazz · Post by **Tony Wazz** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:39 pm

I want to add to the asking on this, too.

1.) What sort of Dragon is Nargulthonossor (The Grandmentor of the Order of the Dragon)?

2.) Can we get him imported from the wilderness server to the Deglos Server?

I ask because during the Nise plot, the two dragons knew each other from before Nise was turned into a Dracolich. That got me wondering how old they both were, as well as what flavor of Dragon they both are ( well, was for Nise....).

It would also be nice to see the real Narg with us in Deglos instead of the Ancient Amber we commonly see in his model's stead.

Thanks!!

Final Shinryuu · Post by **Final Shinryuu** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:40 pm

The Platinum Dragon, both in Dragonlance and standard DnD lore is the god Bahamut, creator of the metallic dragons. Not sure about Avlis lore, but from the above quote, it seems as if he's the same god.

Not odd considering that other standard DnD gods also came to Avlis to help the Nine create the main races here.

Moredo · Post by **Moredo** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:42 pm

1. How old he is, is FOIG info, and maybe his race is too (hint: I think he is an Amber).

2. That's up to Papa, but I'll hook him up with the erf, if he wants it.

Fuzz · Post by **Fuzz** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:43 pm

So then it wouldn't be completely unreasonable for Avlissian dragons to worship Bahamut?

xarthna · Post by **xarthna** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:24 am

The true Narg is more of a coal than an amber. Just an ancient amber appeared in Mikona, cause Narg wasn't in that pallet

Li'll Divvil · Post by **Li'll Divvil** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:50 am

xarthna wrote:The true Narg is more of a coal than an amber. Just an ancient amber appeared in Mikona, cause Narg wasn't in that pallet

papa is fixing that in the pallet so Narg will be on Deglos too and eventually maybe on other servrs where has has "business"

GreyLynx · Post by **GreyLynx** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:44 pm

I'm curious what sort of a dragon Triell is, being green-hued. I always had the impression she was neutral - are there gem dragons maybe?

Jonezie · Post by **Jonezie** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:19 pm

GreyLynx wrote:I'm curious what sort of a dragon Triell is, being green-hued. I always had the impression she was neutral - are there gem dragons maybe?

Been wondering for a while, GreyLynx?
http://www.avlis.org/viewtopic.php?p=348278#348278

GreyLynx, on September 05, 2004 wrote:What sort of dragon is Triell?

Sunscream · Post by **Sunscream** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:55 pm

If I recall, Triell was created by a DM who often used chromatic dragons. So it may be one of those things that shouldn't be.

Pathos Street · Post by **Pathos Street** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:56 pm

Final Shinryuu wrote:The Platinum Dragon, both in Dragonlance and standard DnD lore is the god Bahamut, creator of the metallic dragons. Not sure about Avlis lore, but from the above quote, it seems as if he's the same god.

Not odd considering that other standard DnD gods also came to Avlis to help the Nine create the main races here.

Fuzz wrote:So then it wouldn't be completely unreasonable for Avlissian dragons to worship Bahamut?

Avlis has gods of death, chaos, soldiers, strength, magic, etc. that aren't the same gods that have these portfolios in other campaigns. It is entirely possible that the platinum dragon of Avlis is completely unique from Bahamut or Paladine, and I'd definitely ask the team before assuming that a god from another campaign has followers or power on Avlis.

Nob · Post by **Nob** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:58 pm

The Platinum Dragon in the world info is an avatar of one of the Nine that brought the metallics to Avlis.

It is not Bahamut or Paladine, just so we're clear.

Drysh · Post by **Drysh** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:11 pm

I'm asking that too:

Fuzz wrote:So then it wouldn't be completely unreasonable for Avlissian dragons to worship Bahamut?

What about Draconic pantheon? Do dragons in Avlis worship them, or they will always worship an Avlissian god?

Nob · Post by **Nob** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:12 pm

Nob wrote:The Platinum Dragon in the world info is an avatar of one of the Nine that brought the metallics to Avlis.

It is not Bahamut or Paladine, just so we're clear.

For emphasis.

Avlissian dragons, whether stone or metallic would worship an Avlissian god if they worship one at all.

Manuel the White · Post by **Manuel the White** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:38 am

If I recall correctly, Triell was always introduced as an Emerald Dragon since chromatics do not exist in Avlis. In later years, when I spawned her, I used the same explanation since her floaty said nothing about being a Green. Not sure on the official stance (or if there even is one) but she is certainly one of the curiosities of Avlis lore.