rapid shot

Darkfire · Post by **Darkfire** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:01 pm

I took the feat rapid shot, and it didn't give me a extra attack

or does it not appear like when you gain an extra attack?

say...

attack bonus: +9 / +7

or would it just...

attack bonus: +9 and not show the extra attack but still have it?

rapid shot: for the bow
rapid reload: for the crossbow

Krator · Post by **Krator** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:03 pm

You need to activate it, like detect/stealth mode.

Darkfire · Post by **Darkfire** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:05 pm

awww, ok, thanks
edit: is a n00b

spool32 · Post by **spool32** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:22 pm

It's worth noting that you get a to-hit penalty when it's on, in exchange for more attacks/round.

Fire Monkey · Post by **Fire Monkey** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:23 pm

spool32 wrote:It's worth noting that you get a to-hit penalty when it's on, in exchange for more attacks/round.

-2 to hit.

Pulseczar · Post by **Pulseczar** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:54 am

and both attacks suffer the -2. So when you activate the ability, your AB will show as +7 in your character sheet. When you attack something, you will notice that you are making two attacks, both at +7 ab.

Now when you get your official second attack, your character sheet will show (we'll just assume your AB didn't change for simplicity) 9/4 and it'll show 7/2 when you activate rapid shot. If you look in your battle log then, you'll see that you are making three attacks. First at 7, second at 2, and third at 7. The rapid shot is always made at highest AB.

darthjee · Post by **darthjee** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:29 am

Fire Monkey wrote:
spool32 wrote:It's worth noting that you get a to-hit penalty when it's on, in exchange for more attacks/round.
-2 to hit.

its a very good feat when you fight low AC and high HP creatures. very usefull, you just have to quickslot the feat so you can quickly select it when needed

Rhissaerk Jalesh · Post by **Rhissaerk Jalesh** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:37 am

I'm fairly certain rapid shot does not work with a crossbow. I think that's silly, but I recall encountering that during testing...*frowns*

downsystem · Post by **downsystem** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:43 am

Rapid shot is for bows and another feat called rapid reload is used for crossbows which gives the same number of attacks that a normal bow would get.

Just had a thought if you were a fighter and used a crossbow, with rapid reload. Would you thus get four attacks arround at 16th level with a crossbow cause thats your normal amount of attacks you would get with a bow?

Froggy · Post by **Froggy** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:54 am

downsystem wrote:Rapid shot is for bows and another feat called rapid reload is used for crossbows which gives the same number of attacks that a normal bow would get.

Just had a thought if you were a fighter and used a crossbow, with rapid reload. Would you thus get four attacks arround at 16th level with a crossbow cause thats your normal amount of attacks you would get with a bow?

Though I'm not sure how it works in PnP, feat description is wrong in NWN for Rapid Reload. You will only get one extra attack per round. So, 2 attacks per round, max 3 hasted. Reason, you don't see many using crossbow.

Rhissaerk Jalesh · Post by **Rhissaerk Jalesh** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:01 am

In PnP, you will get full attacks per round with a light crossbow, and can reload a heavy crossbow faster. It's an unfortunate bug in NWN, that. Poor crossbows. You can only ever get two attacks per round unhasted. *frowns*

VETT SCALES L7 · Post by **VETT SCALES L7** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:37 am

Rapid reload was broken for nwn last time I tested it.

mortzestus · Post by **mortzestus** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:26 pm

Rapid Reload works as intended, it's the description what is wrong.

mortzestus wrote:In NWN Rapid Reload just lets you attack twice per round with any crossbow. In D&D 3.0 the Rapid Reload feat lets you recharge light crossbows as a free action or heavy crossbows as a move equivalent action, this increasing the RoF of light crossbows from 1 to 2 attacks and heavy crossbows go from 1/2 to 1 attack. Heavy crossbows can usually be fired just once every two rounds, they are insanely fast in NWN.

EDIT: Also in D&D 3.0 there's an epic feat called Instant Reload that lets you fire a crossbow at your full normal attack rate.