no horses????

cimmerian9x · Post by **cimmerian9x** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:18 pm

any horses???... to ride.

PlasmaJohn · Post by **PlasmaJohn** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:20 pm

Moved.

No, this is an engine limitation. One of the Custom Content groups (DLA?) claims to have a working implementation, but they have yet to produce anything. At least last time I looked.

Marleh · Post by **Marleh** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:23 pm

dougnoel wrote:It definitely won't happen without a link to said haks. It still probably won't happen unless it's part of the CEP someday. If the mounts are REALLY, REALLY cool and actually work - we might think about adding it. The fur clothing sounds cool - I'd like to see that.

Doug

This was answered in your previous post.

Please take the time to experience Avlis as it was built. There are a lot of specialised scripts and items that make this a unique PW without horses. Honest.

Themicles · Post by **Themicles** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:11 pm

The DLA team is working on a full featured, high quality horse system.

Yes, there is another horse hakpak on the NWVault, but I assure you that the DLA system will be far better.

DLA is currently under contract by BioWare to make all sorts of custom content for BioWare's premium modules. And, in fact, they are even working on a premium module of their own! (Though, sadly, not Dragonlance related).

The reason I mention this is that they are under a Non-Disclosure Agreement with BioWare on any content they develop for BioWare. They released a lot of information about their horses when it was still being developed as a hakpak.

Now? They are suddenly not allowed to talk about them anymore.

My speculation? Premium module followed by being patched in as official NWN content.

Even if that doesn't happen, there will at least be a hak released by them, and we will re-evaluate adding horses to the CoPaP at that time.

Either way, it'll be worth the wait.

DanishPastry · Post by **DanishPastry** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:27 am

Themicles wrote:Either way, it'll be worth the wait.

I agree, but damn... what a wait.

Shadow Monkey · Post by **Shadow Monkey** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:40 am

It is good as it is now, horses will be a huge bonus though.

Alphonse · Post by **Alphonse** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:32 am

Shadow Monkey wrote:It is good as it is now, horses will be a huge bonus though.

Als too small for a horse. Can we get riding dogs too?

dannyschil · Post by **dannyschil** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:48 am

I want a pony or a donkey.

rshampshire · Post by **rshampshire** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:02 pm

I see bud more as the riding dog type too...

http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/GiantIT ... ipt?SK=199

Isengrim · Post by **Isengrim** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:52 pm

Riding horses is... how to say so... a dead horse a bit?

Croton · Post by **Croton** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:56 pm

Just a stray comment about DLA...

man they created a lot of high quality content and are pretty talented, but....

They never finished 1 DL module!!!

They suffered from feature creep. I would have liked to play those DL mods. oh well.

Fire Monkey · Post by **Fire Monkey** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 2:20 pm

Isengrim wrote:Riding horses is... how to say so... a dead horse a bit?

True, true. Perhaps we should skip past it and go straight to riding undead horses?

dannyschil · Post by **dannyschil** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 2:39 pm

The ultimate high, Flying on the back of a dragon.

Themicles · Post by **Themicles** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:25 pm

croton wrote:Just a stray comment about DLA...

man they created a lot of high quality content and are pretty talented, but....

They never finished 1 DL module!!!

They suffered from feature creep. I would have liked to play those DL mods. oh well.

I briefly commented on this in my post.

They didn't suffer from feature creep. If you don't want to take my word for it, please visit their forums and read all of their staff posts from the past year.

The simple fact is that NWN will not allow full party control. (Example would be BG2, but even it only allowed 6 party members). In order to do DLA1 properly, they need to have all 8 party members, and each one would need to be controllable. Something that NWN CAN NOT do. They even worked with BioWare on this to see if they could make it possible without having to rewrite large sections of the game's code. It simply comes down to that it is not possible with some vast rewrites.

While they wont be making a Dragonlance module in NWN because of this, they haven't thrown out their work, and still might make the module for NWN2 if the party control is possible.

Isengrim · Post by **Isengrim** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:45 pm

Fire Monkey wrote:
Isengrim wrote:Riding horses is... how to say so... a dead horse a bit?
True, true. Perhaps we should skip past it and go straight to riding undead horses?

Nah, that smells of WoW....

Croton · Post by **Croton** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:45 pm

Themicles wrote:
croton wrote:Just a stray comment about DLA...

man they created a lot of high quality content and are pretty talented, but....

They never finished 1 DL module!!!

They suffered from feature creep. I would have liked to play those DL mods. oh well.
I briefly commented on this in my post.

They didn't suffer from feature creep. If you don't want to take my word for it, please visit their forums and read all of their staff posts from the past year.

The simple fact is that NWN will not allow full party control. (Example would be BG2, but even it only allowed 6 party members). In order to do DLA1 properly, they need to have all 8 party members, and each one would need to be controllable. Something that NWN CAN NOT do. They even worked with BioWare on this to see if they could make it possible without having to rewrite large sections of the game's code. It simply comes down to that it is not possible with some vast rewrites.

While they wont be making a Dragonlance module in NWN because of this, they haven't thrown out their work, and still might make the module for NWN2 if the party control is possible.

Though I didn't know these details, I still think this falls into feature creep. They started out saying just multiplayer, then said both multi & solo, then I guess like you said, they stopped becasue the solo controlling all characters isn't possible. I'm not knocking them, they are a hell of a lot more talented than I am. I'm just thinking with all the time spent, and hype, its a little disapointing to not get a single of the DL modules from them. They would have been fun to go through.