Positive energy and undeads.. A question.

AyounTheDark · Post by **AyounTheDark** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:48 am

Hi,

I have tried the search for this first of all, but had no success in finding a direct answer to my question here, though I believe I've read about it somewhere before..

My question(s);

Does positive energy have a damaging effect on all undeads? So all the cure spells does harm to undeads? - Or is it just some undeads if any?

Thx on beforehand

Alphonse · Post by **Alphonse** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:49 am

AyounTheDark wrote:Hi,

I have tried the search for this first of all, but had no success in finding a direct answer to my question here, though I believe I've read about it somewhere before..

My question(s);

Does positive energy have a damaging effect on all undeads? So all the cure spells does harm to undeads? - Or is it just some undeads if any?

Thx on beforehand

Healing spells on undead heals them unfortunately. Or at least it did the last time i tried it.

Dirk Cutlass · Post by **Dirk Cutlass** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:49 am

Perhaps this should be found out in-game?

Alphonse · Post by **Alphonse** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:51 am

I think the cure spells one can be answered as its a bug, er bioware feature and therefore an OOC issue

mortzestus · Post by **mortzestus** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:55 am

Moved to NWN General Discussion because this is a game mechanics non Avlis related question.

Heal XXX Wounds, Heal, Healing Circle and Mass Heal will cause damage to all undead in NWN. However, Raise Dead and Resurrection will have no effect.

Alphonse · Post by **Alphonse** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:56 am

mortzestus wrote:Moved to NWN General Discussion because this is a game mechanics non Avlis related question.

Heal XXX Wounds, Heal, Healing Circle and Mass Heal will cause damage to all undead in NWN. However, Raise Dead and Resurrection will have no effect.

healing spells now damage undead?

since when?

mortzestus · Post by **mortzestus** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:56 am

Since day one.

Alphonse · Post by **Alphonse** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:57 am

mortzestus wrote:Since day one, lol.

*mutters and goes to test again*

Healing kits too?

Dirk Cutlass · Post by **Dirk Cutlass** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:58 am

Heal kits don't work though. We tried that on a mummy once

mortzestus · Post by **mortzestus** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:58 am

Ever seen those vampire priests killing themselves with their healing spells?

Alphonse · Post by **Alphonse** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:58 am

Dirk Cutlass wrote:Heal kits don't work though. We tried that on a mummy once

ahhh.

that must be what i was thinking of. I remember that now

Alphonse · Post by **Alphonse** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:59 am

mortzestus wrote:Ever seen those vampire priests killing themselves with their healing spells?

nope. they dont last long enough to try

Ben DeVeny · Post by **Ben DeVeny** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:52 pm

When fighting one of the more obstinate masters in the LRC where I could not get many hits in, I decided to try healing. Big mistake. my cure spell DID in fact heal him and he chased my wrinkely ass out of there. I am convinced that cures heal undead, not damage them. It was the only time I tried it.

Alphonse · Post by **Alphonse** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:54 pm

Ben DeVeny wrote:When fighting one of the more obstinate masters in the LRC where I could not get many hits in, I decided to try healing. Big mistake. my cure spell DID in fact heal him and he chased my wrinkely ass out of there. I am convinced that cures heal undead, not damage them. It was the only time I tried it.

I'm not sure the masters in the LRC are undead though are they?

Ben DeVeny · Post by **Ben DeVeny** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:56 pm

well, if they arent, they would be the exception, not the rule. Actually, that is a good question. Spose they could be living.

Alphonse · Post by **Alphonse** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:57 pm

Ben DeVeny wrote:

well, if they arent, they would be the exception, not the rule. Actually, that is a good question. Spose they could be living.

I'm pretty sure the Po twins are alive

Isengrim · Post by **Isengrim** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:59 pm

Divinia's Mass Healing spells were rocking in the LRC, though she didn't use them on the Masters. Oh, I tried to heal Nise with a scroll, but the bastard resisted.

Elong Singalong · Post by **Elong Singalong** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:05 pm

I would also say found out in game... but since a lot has said already..

When i try to heal my zombie with a heal spell it damages him..

Dont make the mistake with demons and undead.. There is a difference between those both. Undead get damaged when you use a positive energy spell on them. At this moment i have gloves that resist 10% positieve energy and i am a palemaster...

Negative energy heals undead.. And if you would really want to learn something about this, either join the keepers or the palemasters group..

and to the keepers:

PALEMASTERS ROCK!!

Ben DeVeny · Post by **Ben DeVeny** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:41 pm

Bah...
pale masters only started summoning undead because they couldnt find anyone til listen to them or be their freind. They started out as a tea and cake club but found out that even with free cake, the meetings werent worth coming to.

edit: I know this for a fact because I have three spies in your club and they tell me everything

Elong Singalong · Post by **Elong Singalong** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:48 pm

Ben DeVeny wrote:Bah...
pale masters only started summoning undead because they couldnt find anyone til listen to them or be their freind. They started out as a tea and cake club but found out that even with free cake, the meetings werent worth coming to.

edit: I know this for a fact because I have three spies in your club and they tell me everything

ohh.. now i am scared *really fake shiver*

Like we didnot knew

szabot · Post by **szabot** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:21 pm

Ben DeVeny wrote:Bah...
pale masters only started summoning undead because they couldnt find anyone til listen to them or be their freind. They started out as a tea and cake club but found out that even with free cake, the meetings werent worth coming to.

That's because Sinomi is a horrible cook.

edit: I know this for a fact because I have three spies in your club and they tell me everything

But didn't you know that the Keepers - other than Shen - are all actually pale masters working against Dagath?

Glofindel · Post by **Glofindel** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:23 pm

All the Masters in the LRC are definatly undead, for sure, no doubt.

Panther · Post by **Panther** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:29 pm

it depends, do they have Undead lvls?

Aloro · Post by **Aloro** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:33 pm

mortzestus wrote:Since day one.

Yeah, I can verify that healing spells harmed undead from Cha'reth's very first encounters therewith, almost 3 years ago. That's never changed.

- Aloro

Post by **Sarmanos** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:40 pm

Usually if a undead creature is healed by any Cure or Heal type spell that means that someone was a little forgetful and forgot to set the creature's Race to Undead. Either that or the creature just has very pale skin

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