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Post by Deider » Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:19 am

VETT SCALES L7 wrote:Try getting the whole story before taking a side and calling grief. Or ask the two other players that were with this 'griefed' individual what happened rather than relying on a single persons narrow and rather inaccurate view.
The 'single person with a narrow and rather innacurate view' would in this case be you. The person you claim to have a narrow and innacurate view was upset, but as he mentions in this very thread, he did NOT file a griefing report. He handled it ICly, and one of his fellow guild members contacted us and asked if we'd look into it. I PMed the player, he sent us his account, the team gathered accounts from other sources, and the issue was expediently resolved.

And while we're on it... let's all try to remember that this is a cooperative game, a group game. AD&D has always been a multiplayer game. In PnP you need at the very least 2 people, a player and a DM. Bad players try to make it fun for themselves, while good players try to make it fun for all.

So when a group of PCs goes into an adventuring area and kicks out another group of PCs who are trying to complete a scripted quest there... you can hide behing 'being IC' all you want, and it may not be griefing, but it's sure as hell inconsiderate to your fellow players and doesn't win you any points with the staff. IMHO it's a load of horseshit.
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Post by Katroine » Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:36 am

This whole thread griefs me and I wish I never posted it.
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Post by VETT SCALES L7 » Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:45 am

Deider wrote: you can hide behing 'being IC' all you want, and it may not be griefing, but it's sure as hell inconsiderate to your fellow players and doesn't win you any points with the staff. IMHO it's a load of horseshit.
If you wish to contact me then do so Deider. If you consider me a bad player like those mentioned pointedly in your post, tell me that too. In an email or PM, not in an open forum.
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Post by Wart » Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:43 am

It's a damn shame such a fine initial post gets seasoned with bile. Bile is still bile, no matter who's mouth it spews from.
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Post by Orleron » Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:19 am

Don't muck up this thread! I would like it to be searchable in the future.

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Post by Aloro » Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:54 am

Katroine wrote:This whole thread griefs me and I wish I never posted it.
I quite enjoyed your initial post, Kat, and though the discussion has veered from constructive to destructive and back again several times, I think the original points were well made.

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