About the clerical domain trickery.

AyounTheDark · Post by **AyounTheDark** » Wed May 18, 2005 8:41 am

Hi.
I've chosen the clerical domain trickery among one one of the domains for my character. But in tha basic rules it states that improved invisiblity should be available as a 4th lvl spell.

Has this been removed on avlis to that domain? Or is it a bug?

Thanks.

Alphonse · Post by **Alphonse** » Wed May 18, 2005 8:49 am

This is spell level not actual level

and also have a WIS of 10 + the spell level

Edit : Non team post removed

AyounTheDark · Post by **AyounTheDark** » Wed May 18, 2005 8:53 am

Well of course I know its not lvl 4 as character lvl

Its spelllvl 4 (thought that was clear enough in the above but okay)

And I do sport a higher wis than 10.. Hehee, But thanks Al *-)

((gotta improve on my IC comments I take it.. lol))

Alphonse · Post by **Alphonse** » Wed May 18, 2005 8:55 am

AyounTheDark wrote:And I do sport a higher wis than 10.. Hehee, But thanks Al *-)

You misunderstand me

You need WIS 14 to cast lvl 4 spells. WIS 15 to cast lvl 5 spells, etc

And this is BASE WIS, as in without any WIS enhancing items.

Edit : Thanks Talwin but this is ask the team

AyounTheDark · Post by **AyounTheDark** » Wed May 18, 2005 8:57 am

Alphonse wrote:
AyounTheDark wrote:And I do sport a higher wis than 10.. Hehee, But thanks Al *-)
You misunderstand me

You need WIS 14 to cast lvl 4 spells. WIS 15 to cast lvl 5 spells, etc

Oki.. Just saw that

Sorry.. Got that too, and still getting wiser..

Alphonse · Post by **Alphonse** » Wed May 18, 2005 9:01 am

you can cast other 4th level spells?

AyounTheDark · Post by **AyounTheDark** » Wed May 18, 2005 9:02 am

Alphonse wrote:you can cast other 4th level spells?

Yes but thats only because of the ring of holiness I bought. Maybe thats the cause?

Alphonse · Post by **Alphonse** » Wed May 18, 2005 9:04 am

AyounTheDark wrote:
Alphonse wrote:you can cast other 4th level spells?
Yes but thats only because of the ring of holiness I bought. Maybe thats the cause?

but you have 7 levels of cleric?

AyounTheDark · Post by **AyounTheDark** » Wed May 18, 2005 9:08 am

No I have not.. But able to cast the lvl 4 spell anyways with the ring.. Perhaps thats a bug?? Or what?

Alphonse · Post by **Alphonse** » Wed May 18, 2005 9:15 am

as far as i know you shouldnt be able to cast a spell that you dont have the required number of cleric levels to be able to cast, even with an item that gives you the spell slots.

Either way this sounds like a bug. Please log it using the bug tracker

AyounTheDark · Post by **AyounTheDark** » Wed May 18, 2005 9:20 am

Alphonse wrote:as far as i know you shouldnt be able to cast a spell that you dont have the required number of cleric levels to be able to cast, even with an item that gives you the spell slots.

Either way this sounds like a bug. Please log it using the bug tracker

Okay.. Please help me out how to do that. Still too new to know how exactly..

Alphonse · Post by **Alphonse** » Wed May 18, 2005 9:22 am

bugs/bug.php?op=add

post in there.

please include number of cleric levels, Base WIS before items, as well as what spells you can see for the 4th level spells.

Also which server you noticed this on, and anything else you consider relevant

AyounTheDark · Post by **AyounTheDark** » Wed May 18, 2005 9:29 am

Good.
Tried it out. Hope it works. Thx.

Glofindel · Post by **Glofindel** » Wed May 18, 2005 9:42 am

That is a bioware mess up...
Tricks Clerics get Improved invis as a level 5 spell, not a level 4.

mortzestus · Post by **mortzestus** » Wed May 18, 2005 2:36 pm

Moved, since this question is about NWN rather than Avlis and doesn't really belong to Ask the Team.

For the record, Glofindel is right and Improved Invisibility is a level 5 spell for clerics with the trickery domain. The manual is (once more) wrong.

Marleh · Post by **Marleh** » Wed May 18, 2005 8:41 pm

And whoever thought that giving Alphonse a team job would give him less time to troll the boards was dead wrong...

Alphonse · Post by **Alphonse** » Wed May 18, 2005 8:52 pm

Marleh wrote:And whoever thought that giving Alphonse a team job would give him less time to troll the boards was dead wrong...

shhh you.

They havent noticed yet.

I'll get kicked out when they do

*looks around furtively*

dougnoel · Post by **dougnoel** » Wed May 25, 2005 7:37 pm

By the way, being able to cast spells you don't have the levels for is a Bioware engine thing. Nothing we can do about it.

korak · Post by **korak** » Wed May 25, 2005 9:03 pm

mortzestus wrote:Moved, since this question is about NWN rather than Avlis and doesn't really belong to Ask the Team.

For the record, Glofindel is right and Improved Invisibility is a level 5 spell for clerics with the trickery domain. The manual is (once more) wrong.

Hmmm, my manual says that Clerics get it as a 5th level spell. They must have made some corrections along the way.