ECL for custom races

myzmar · Post by **myzmar** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 7:59 am

Heh, another general question... can someone please explain to me what does the ECL: 3 mean in Wemic's description. I asked a Wemic player today, he did his best, but I seem to be dumb

and don't get it at all... what are this "beast levels"? What is ECL? It does affect xp-gaining rate, or something else/more than that?

Gairus · Post by **Gairus** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 8:19 am

ECL is extra levels applied to your character in a class that is weaker than true character classes.

So a wemic barbarian starts with three extra beast levels - but these beast levels are vastly weaker than three barbarian levels would have been.

A level one wemic with three beast levels is not as powerful as a level 4 character, but spawns monsters as if it were a level 4 character.

It affects your level advancement in the long run as well as how many character classes you can choose.

myzmar · Post by **myzmar** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 8:22 am

Oh, I see.... and it probably affects the number of levels you can get in total, so a Wemic could possibly only have 37 "normal" levels, right? Tricky!

What are the HP's, BAB etc for those beast levels btw?

Gairus · Post by **Gairus** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 8:29 am

the levels give 1hp each.

This especially hurts because the first three levels give you maximum HP normally.

I can't remember the stats for 3 beast levels though. *furrows brow*

ECL hurt maximum level more before the advent of stupid... err... epic levels. It was a real trade-off, especially for casters, druids and monks.

Psychopathaway · Post by **Psychopathaway** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 1:26 pm

A new Wemic will get 1hp + con bonus (before adjustment) per beast level and have a BAB of 3 as an effective level 4 on start up.

Gairus · Post by **Gairus** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 12:27 am

That would depend on class.

Not all classes have BaB 1 at level 1

Psychopathaway · Post by **Psychopathaway** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 1:57 am

Gairus wrote:That would depend on class.

Not all classes have BaB 1 at level 1

Very true, I was coming from the preferred class of Barbarian.

Titanium Dragon · Post by **Titanium Dragon** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 6:44 am

This is just a curiousity question - why is it that Avlis ECL levels give 1 hp/ECL level whereas Abyss 404's give full hp for those ECL levels?

Gairus · Post by **Gairus** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 6:47 am

I recall red golem's post - Abyss404 specifically designed ELC to give new characters a boost due to the difficulty of the server.

Fairly sure avlis wants it to be a penatly

EDIT: Hala, too - 1hp/ecl level. Dunno about other servers.

KaiRal Windspar · Post by **KaiRal Windspar** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 6:48 am

Titanium Dragon wrote:This is just a curiousity question - why is it that Avlis ECL levels give 1 hp/ECL level whereas Abyss 404's give full hp for those ECL levels?

Because on Abyss, you need them.

dragon lord · Post by **dragon lord** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:41 am

ECL means effective character level for exanple if you have an ecl of 3 your character is more powerful than a level 2 but weaker than a level 3

Kareth · Post by **Kareth** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 11:55 am

dragon lord wrote:ECL means effective character level for exanple if you have an ecl of 3 your character is more powerful than a level 2 but weaker than a level 3

So with an ECL of 3, would you need 4000 xp points to level. As I have never played an ECL char but my understanding is that the ECL is a special class so you would need to gain the extra xp to level.

Enverex · Post by **Enverex** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 12:04 pm

Yeah, thats right. Another reason it makes it harder.