Confession of a Powerplayer

[Vrak]

After reading Furins post about roleplayers

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i feel i have things i need to get off my chest.

First of i am from Sweden so you have to excuse my english


So am i a powerplayer? It took me a long time to figgure it out but i have come to the point when i can not deny it, even from myself.

It all started when i was 7 years old and played my first D&D with my friends, i was hocked with the first time i threw the dice and have never looked back.

Almost 20 years of my life have i spent in other worlds the last 10 years behind a computer

What have i gotten from all of this pepole ask me. I would belive freedom of mind,a big imagination and also i am part owner of an it-cafe who plays many a mmorpgs.


Now to the point of how i became a powerplayer

At the begining i RP alott lvling my char was slow and at some points even painfull. Also i like to play the big mighty warrior almost allways chaotic since it is in my nature and i have a hard time hiding it in game. I do what i want when i want it, not to say that i am evil far from it.But i like the feeling of pepole knowing that is Vrak and he is a mighty warrior.

Roleplaying to be a might warrior is one thing but a actually being one that my friends, well that is what makes the day

Now for me a game really starts at epic lvls when you got the skills to do what you want, instead of only being able to slay a rat and even then you might die. "Surly you can roleplay being a mighty warrior" But can you really, how can i prove myself when all i can do is the basic lvl 1 attack and so low on hp a cat could kill me. No for me the game starts at higher lvls not to say i dont have fun getting there and i love the challenge thats one of the points i play.

So i have found myself breaking apart the games i play more and more to lvl faster, and most game lately have been a bore, to easy. Not to say i exploit i would never do that(unless i diden't know of the exploit and did it unintentionally). But then i found Avlis and only after a few days i knew it was perfect

For a fact i know i will lvl fast and rocket past some of you who have played for a long time, so if you can stand the fact that i am a roleplaying powerplayer i thank you. Please all reply to this post here and tell me what you think. If to many get uppset with me i will leave myself, but i hope i can make friends with you all for i know in my heart Avlis is the world for me.

Vhrak Of Vharg the Wemic Warrior

[White-Raven]

First of i am from Sweden so you have to excuse my english

Thats no excuse... your english is way better then some of the native ones

[Khaelindra]

First of i am from Sweden so you have to excuse my english

Thats no excuse... your english is way better then some of the native ones

lol...quite! *thinks of Xeo and grins widely* (no offence Xeo, doesn't bother me at all, but it IS gruesome)...

[Khaelindra]

Vrak, my take?

I don't care about how much time you spend killing things. I just care you live amongst us, show us how you are, join us in enjoying a bottle of Ken's first attempt at brewing, courting Loreanna (wasn't that her name?), escort posessed girls to the temple of O'Ma...
You ran by us ten times hunting the rats, but when i invited you to join us as some of us were curious who you were, you joined and partook in the chatting. That to me is enough. You socialized, you RP'd.
You will see that not only will acts like this flesh out your character, but it will also make your character more impressive quickly. Why? Well, you may not get as much xp (although you might be surprised how often "something" happens there) but you will make friends who can help you. Perhaps even give you some nice gear because they like you. Show you nice spots (where thereafter you might even hunt for yourself when few are online, regaining the "xp-time" lost socializing), and make you a part of society.
This way, you will not be the lvl 14 warrior with found gear who occasionally runs by to some dungeon, but the well-known lvl 10 warrior with nice gear and a place in some group that gives you respect. I expect that will do more for you to be considered a brave and great warrior than being that nameless lvl 14.


Hope this helps.

[Titanium Dragon]

Being high level won't get anyone to respect you. Just an FYI. You could be level 40, but unless everyone knows about your heroic acts, no one cares if you are a "mighty warrior". Janur is widely known, and is level 8; there are characters who are level 20 whose names and classes I neither know nor remember. But everyone knows who Janur is, because of his involvement in plots and the great deal of time he spends around other players.

Trying to get to the epic levels quickly will just undercut yourself; as was pointed out in the other thread, the DMs do ignore and keep tabs on people who level too fast for their liking. I'd just stop and smell the roses.

And, as Khalendra pointed out, making IC friends is far more important in the end anyway. We'll respect someone who is a level 10 character who is our friend more than a level 30 we know nothing about.

[Fire Monkey]

Does your character have only one dimension? He is a mighty warrior and thats it? Why don't you spend your lower levels rping wanting and training to become a mighty warrior. It would give another dimension to your character and give him a bit of history.
Just look at him at lower levels as been a bit green (i.e. a bit new, naieve, unsure of his surroundings). Considering you are a new player this really shouldn;t be hard as you yourself don't know the world that well yet. As you learn it so will he. Surely that can't be so difficult.

[MountainMan Johnson]

this is good info, thx, i just joined but am anxious to get into the role...

[Malathyre]

Frankly speaking, there are a lot of things that are more important than a character's level to me on Avlis. I think Khaelindra hit the nail on the head by saying that your character's reputation is going to be based a lot more off of what people know of the character than your character's level.

As a player here, I don't think I have the right to judge whether you are a "powergamer" or "powerplayer", so you are going to get the same treatment from me whether your character is level 2 or level 37, and whether you got those levels in a week or in 3 years. I think the notion that any player can say, "You are levelling too fast, therefore you must not be rping," is pretty ridiculous, and I don't care to worry about such things anymore anyway.

In other words, my advice is do what's fun for you, have fun rping your character, and don't worry too much about what any other player thinks in an OOC way about what you are doing. I hope to see you in game sometime.

[KinX]

Frankly speaking, there are a lot of things that are more important than a character's level to me on Avlis. I think Khaelindra hit the nail on the head by saying that your character's reputation is going to be based a lot more off of what people know of the character than your character's level.

i can't agree more.

Building a reputation is a million times more fulfilling than reaching level 20. Trust me, i know

[Spartan]

I've given some thought to replying to this. Mainly because I dont want any attention

On role playing servers a character who gains level quickly is usually singled out for being a powergamer.
I would like to offer a different point of view.

Some players define their character by social interaction. They enjoy hanging around a local spot (ex elf gate) and have their character evolve through in character discussions plots and quests. they get married, talk about having kids and buying a house. Thats what they like about the game. i supose in life these people would be the social butterflies.

Other players I think define their character through in character talk but they do so while fighting monsters or adventuring.(me) These are more action minded people. They play because they like fighting . They have their characters evolve through not only meeting people making friends but by becomming stronger warriors or more powerful wizards. They role play their character training and practicing and fighting and getting stronger. getting levels. Like an athlete or boxer. IF i can use martial arts as an example. Some join and go once a week or once every two weeks. They learn slowly which doesnt bug them because its their pace. They sit around after class and talk, maybe going out to the movies, just makin friends. Others show up 4 times a week an hour eairly and stay half an hour after class. They traing and train and train and while they may not like sitting around chatting or going to the movies (are as well known as the others) they learn the martial art much faster than the others.

I think in the end as long as someone isn't constantly breaking character or only cares about leveling without any thought -who cares how fast they go up.
If they havent given their character's history any thought or dont have any traits/personality thats when i consider them a powergamer and have no time for them. They just want to get as strong as possible as fast as possibly, usually with the intention of showing off to other players or towering over others.

Just my 2 cents

[Khaelindra]

Personally, unless you "abuse" that quickly gained power to start killing other PC's, i don't care much which level you are.

However, as i understood it your goal was not primarily to become a strong fighter, but to become KNOWN as a strong fighter. To become known as a strong fighter around the lands, people will need to know you, or of you, in the first place. If for instance you'd be allowed to start as a lvl 20 fighter, you would be powerfull (well, apart from having no items of course), no doubt about that, but you'd also be unknown. In a fight you'd be able to impress people with your skill, but outside that direct encounter noone would know you, so noone would know you are good.
However, if you 'd reach that lvl 20 while having a network of friends/ acquaintances/ enemies/ apprentices/ guildmembers/ whatnot, then many would know you as the fearsome warrior, speak of you even when you're not around, invite you to assist them in tasks or quests...all of that because they KNOW you.

In the example of the martial artist you gave: if you felt afraid to walk home at night from a party, and both persons in the example were also present at the party, would you ask the one who knows a little martial arts but is a friend of yours because he took the time to socialize, or the "martial arts expert" who you don't know (and probably don't even know he's good)? I think we both know the answer.
Now this is in no way a condamnation of the path the "expert" has chosen, for his priority clearly lies with becoming good, and he succeeded in that. It's just not the way of becoming good that also makes you well-known. Whether that is an issue or not is not up to us, but up to what you want with your character.

Hope this helps you determine your Wemic's goals, or the goal you have for your Wemic.

M.

[denor firefly]

*sighs*

[Cymbolism]

I guess that if a player wishes their character to be seen as intimidating or respected, they need a reputation and that is gained through many weeks and months of interactive roleplay.
Sure, a character may be seen as skillful when first met but without a reputation will never hold any power.

[KinX]

meeting and knowing people is also how you get involved in plots/quests even though you're not online.

You can't be online 24/7 (though some try), but being known in-game assures that you'll get invited to all the parties.

[JollyOrc]

now, enough of dry theory:

I've socialized with Vhrak yesterday, and must say that it was a highly fun evening. We searched for Gruppi and some small dog, killed some trolls, beetles and kobolds, I nearly died three times, and it was all around good fun.

I don't know if this will make Vhrak known as a good fighter, but he surely got a reputation of someone worthwhile to be around.

[Vrak]

Actually they could just hand me 100k exp right when i make my char would save everyone alott of trubble

[Eef]

I met Vrak two times now and I know that he is Vrak, wemic warrior, singer, dancer and eater of rats He might like fighting a lot but he does take time to talk to drunk bards.

Valeria

[markschouten]

Yep! And he still has a job offer for the Canvas