What do you think of True Seeing?

Dirk Cutlass · Post by **Dirk Cutlass** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:54 pm

White-Raven · Post by **White-Raven** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 2:00 pm

With True Seeing, do you mean the NWN version, or the version that boost spot with 2xlvl as it is on Avlis now?

Dirk Cutlass · Post by **Dirk Cutlass** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 2:02 pm

White-Raven wrote:With True Seeing, do you mean the NWN version, or the version that boost spot with 2xlvl as it is on Avlis now?

The version as it is now on Avlis, i.e the spot-boosting version.

Sickocrow · Post by **Sickocrow** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 4:11 pm

I'll stop using TS when every shadow poofter stops sneaking everywhere. People sneaking all the time makes you very paranoid.

I had a case in the bugbear den up in NE m'chek. There was a shadowdancer character occasinly disappearing then reappearing. A few times said character drew groups of bugbear cheiftains to me.
Now. Having said that this person may not have realized I could see him most of the time. Since then.....well...

Sicko-

Quiz001 · Post by **Quiz001** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 5:50 pm

TS blows goats.... I have proof....

Starslayer_D · Post by **Starslayer_D** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 8:48 pm

There is the option missing: TS is fair too weak currently for anybody but extremely high level casters. Hide/MS makes a ridicule of any person trying to live on normal spot.

And why are there so many shadowdancers all of a sudden? Not simply because it's Kewl to be half undead, trust me.

4x4_Ender · Post by **4x4_Ender** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 8:55 pm

I think this would be a more interesting poll: How many of the people that voted for "I hate it, it shouldn't be able to uncover hidden opponents" play a rogue or ranger??

maelwydd · Post by **maelwydd** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:22 pm

Starslayer_D wrote:There is the option missing: TS is fair too weak currently for anybody but extremely high level casters. Hide/MS makes a ridicule of any person trying to live on normal spot.

And why are there so many shadowdancers all of a sudden? Not simply because it's Kewl to be half undead, trust me.

From the manual:-

Shadowdancers are nimble artists of deception...Not quite half Undead but what do I know?

Despite their link with Shadows and trickery, Shadowdancers are as often Good as Evil.

Their skills are functions of deception and distraction, using hightened skills to use all available methods of hiding. They do get sort of mystical eventually (shadow daze, Summon Shadow, Shadow Evade) but nothing more then other classes get really (magic, Ki, Divine etc...)

Titanium Dragon · Post by **Titanium Dragon** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:51 pm

Shadowdancers are supernatural.

In any event, my main is a mage and I voted that True Seeing is too good and should be nerfed. I'd like it to go back to PnP value.

I'd also like to see HiPS moved up to 10th level.

/hijack

maelwydd · Post by **maelwydd** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:57 pm

I just quoted from the manual and still you assign a supernatural label?

They are street illusionists in a world where frikking real magic exists! They are able to use shadow and manipulate it. Now if that is the case are magic users and clerics supernatural too?

Give SD's a break!

keikobad · Post by **keikobad** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 11:11 pm

maelwydd wrote:I just quoted from the manual and still you assign a supernatural label?

They are street illusionists in a world where frikking real magic exists! They are able to use shadow and manipulate it. Now if that is the case are magic users and clerics supernatural too?

Give SD's a break!

Dude, don't worry. People are always harping about one thing or another. No one's going to take your SD levels away. Let's go make a few wemic bard/barbarian/RDDs and give people something else to gripe about.