Arcane touch spells: no roll?

keikobad · Post by **keikobad** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 11:19 pm

Since when did wiz spells that require a ranged/melee touch roll stop needing them?

I remember a while back my casters had to roll to land a ghoul touch or an acid arrow; not now. Fine by me, but odd. Clerics still roll for their touch spells I'm pretty sure.

Post by **tindertwiggy** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 11:38 pm

Hmm dunno.

I do know that as of abotu last february me and strangg were noticing that armor was being counted into touch ac.....

WrathOG777 · Post by **WrathOG777** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 12:10 am

Acid arrow never needed a roll for me. I think all the mage spells are not touch attacks. Ghoul touch says nothing about a to-hit, it just has touch for range. Think I tryed Vamperic touch with the same results. They are just melee range spells, not actualy touch attacks.

Harm and slay living did last i checked, the inflicts do. I think the spell range touch is different then needing a roll.

I know NWN uses full AC not touch AC. Most folks (except monks) have 10-15 touch AC even if their normal AC is 30+.

Armor, shield, and natural donot count. Deflection and dodge(dex & tumble) are all that matter.

Strangg · Post by **Strangg** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 12:13 am

Acid arrow has never required a to hit roll.

~S

Titanium Dragon · Post by **Titanium Dragon** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 12:23 am

Touch range spells SHOULD require a touch attack, but I ain't complainin'.

That is why it is "Touch".

Vanor · Post by **Vanor** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 5:34 am

Strangg wrote:Acid arrow has never required a to hit roll.

It should require a ranged touch attack roll.

keikobad · Post by **keikobad** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 7:03 am

Strangg wrote:Acid arrow has never required a to hit roll.

~S

Hmm, I wonder if it was part of some hak then. I'm not sure whether I noticed it on a PW or on standalone, but I remember way back vamp touch being the only one that didn't need a roll, and everyone on the BioBoards bitched about it because it should have it.

kombinat · Post by **kombinat** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 8:22 am

keikobad wrote:
Strangg wrote:Acid arrow has never required a to hit roll.

~S
Hmm, I wonder if it was part of some hak then. I'm not sure whether I noticed it on a PW or on standalone, but I remember way back vamp touch being the only one that didn't need a roll, and everyone on the BioBoards bitched about it because it should have it.

Played unpatched NWN OC and Acid Arrow never needed a check then...