Successful save by rolling under the DC?

Calzier · Post by **Calzier** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:30 pm

Can anyone explain this?

Only idea I had was that a 'natural 20' was always a save... is this the case?

Drakuul · Post by **Drakuul** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:40 pm

Jorik Ambrose · Post by **Jorik Ambrose** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:43 pm

A natural 20 is always considered a pass, so that's what happened here......

I guess it means by some fluke you passed the test (could be you ducked at right time, he tripped a little when attempting to aim the spell, whatever, but you passed

)

Same thing also applies to attacks, a natural 20 is always a hit.

freestyler · Post by **freestyler** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:36 pm

I remeber playing a pnp ages ago which used to offer open ended when you got the maximum....IE if you got a 20 , you got to roll another die and add that too....was cool as it always meant you had the slim possibilty of getting an amzingly lucky shot

Beary666 · Post by **Beary666** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 6:15 pm

Natural 20s give you an automatic hit.

But natural 20s do not give an auto pass on skill checks or saving throws as far as I know.

Curois · Post by **Curois** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 6:38 pm

Well, apparently on saving throws it does

Darkfire · Post by **Darkfire** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 6:57 pm

Beary666 wrote:Natural 20s give you an automatic hit.

But natural 20s do not give an auto pass on skill checks or saving throws as far as I know.

i didn't think they were supposed to either. IIRC, i have seen a 20 rolled before and they still failed. but I could be imagining it, I would wait until a team member says something about it for sure though.

Istahire · Post by **Istahire** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:04 pm

According to PH3.5, a natural 20 is an automatic success, and a natural 1 automatic failure, for attacks and saves, but not for skills, so this should be correct.

mortzestus · Post by **mortzestus** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:12 pm

Moved to NWN General Discussion.

A natural 20 on a saving throw is always an automatic success in NWN. A natural 1 on a saving throw may or may not be an automatic failure depending on the module settings: this kind of automatic failure is disabled in Avlis.

There is not automatic success or failure in skill checks.

Calzier · Post by **Calzier** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:22 pm

mortzestus wrote:Moved to NWN General Discussion.

Pretty sure it was already there...

mortzestus · Post by **mortzestus** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:54 pm

Not a big deal but it was here.

Darkfire · Post by **Darkfire** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:43 pm

Avlis general // NWN general

Calzier · Post by **Calzier** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:37 pm

mortzestus wrote:Not a big deal but it was here.

Sorry, it's been that kind of a day...

Marleh · Post by **Marleh** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:41 pm

At least it's friday.