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Corellon Larethian

Post by _LuCkY_ » Sat Apr 03, 2004 1:06 pm

Hi everyone,

I want to make a follower of Corellon Larethian. I could not find much information on Avlis about him (or her ;)), but I do know some about him from the FR. Is it the same deity and does it have the same properties as in the FR?

I'm planning on playing a bard/ranger/cleric (much like Corellon himself was) and as most priests of Corellon hard to recognize if she's male or female and talking in the androgynous language form (atleast I'll attempt to once I figure out how to do this :)).

I think it will be quite difficult to roleplay this character, but I still want to give it a shot. I would be gratefull if you have ideas and/or suggestions to help me.

Finally I have a specific question about Corellon. As a priest of Corellon you get an Aura of fear at 5th level against Orcs and Goblinoids. They seem like perfect favourite enemies (the ranger levels) for the character. I still wonder however what the relationship between Corellon and Orcs/Goblinoids is and if it makes sense to choose those as favourite enemy.

I probably will find tons of new questions soon, but I'll stick with these for a while.
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Post by _LuCkY_ » Sat Apr 03, 2004 1:17 pm

Also, what exactly was the role of Corellon in the creation of elves on Avlis. It says in the description that Dru'El asked Corellon for aid in creating his race. Two types of elves emerged from this being the High Elves and the Ghost Elves. I take it the High Elf is as per Corellons description, while the Ghost Elf has an added finishing touch from Dru'El himself?
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Re: Corellon Larethian

Post by Deider » Sat Apr 03, 2004 2:02 pm

_LuCkY_ wrote:I want to make a follower of Corellon Larethian. I could not find much information on Avlis about him (or her ;)), but I do know some about him from the FR. Is it the same deity and does it have the same properties as in the FR?
Yes. But note that Corellon as a deity is not very active on Avlis. He has been allowed by Dru'El to have worshippers here as thanks for guiding Dru'El to make Avlis' elves.
I'm planning on playing a bard/ranger/cleric (much like Corellon himself was) and as most priests of Corellon hard to recognize if she's male or female and talking in the androgynous language form (atleast I'll attempt to once I figure out how to do this :)).
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by the 'androgynous language form.' Avlissian elvish doesn't have gender forms, and the only elves who speak FR Elvish are the drangonari, who don't look much like elves at all. I suggest you check for information on Avlissian elvish in the World Information forum.
I think it will be quite difficult to roleplay this character, but I still want to give it a shot. I would be gratefull if you have ideas and/or suggestions to help me.
I know of at least one priest of Corellon PC that existed, though that character is no longer active. It's quite possible. Holy symbols and robes for clerics of Corellon exist in the palette even.
Finally I have a specific question about Corellon. As a priest of Corellon you get an Aura of fear at 5th level against Orcs and Goblinoids. They seem like perfect favourite enemies (the ranger levels) for the character. I still wonder however what the relationship between Corellon and Orcs/Goblinoids is and if it makes sense to choose those as favourite enemy.
Corellon is quite different from Dru'El, in both alignment and outlook. Orcs on Avlis are smarter than their FR cousins, but that doesn't mean Corellon likes them any more. I think it makes sense for a ranger/cleric of Corellon to choose them as a favorite enemy.
Also, what exactly was the role of Corellon in the creation of elves on Avlis. It says in the description that Dru'El asked Corellon for aid in creating his race. Two types of elves emerged from this being the High Elves and the Ghost Elves. I take it the High Elf is as per Corellons description, while the Ghost Elf has an added finishing touch from Dru'El himself?
All the elves of Avlis were made by Dru'El, but the high elves of Avlis are probably the most similar to FR elves.
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Re: Corellon Larethian

Post by _LuCkY_ » Sat Apr 03, 2004 2:36 pm

Deider wrote:I'm not exactly sure what you mean by the 'androgynous language form.' Avlissian elvish doesn't have gender forms, and the only elves who speak FR Elvish are the drangonari, who don't look much like elves at all. I suggest you check for information on Avlissian elvish in the World Information forum.
I wasn't exactly sure myself yet if that's possible, that's why I mentioned it. I do think however it can be interesting to try to hide your actual sex, though I think it'll be really hard due to OOC information.
Deider wrote:Corellon is quite different from Dru'El, in both alignment and outlook. Orcs on Avlis are smarter than their FR cousins, but that doesn't mean Corellon likes them any more. I think it makes sense for a ranger/cleric of Corellon to choose them as a favorite enemy.
I didn't say they were alike did I (though they are both CG, but I suppose Dru'El is slightly more chaotic then Corellon)? I still wonder why Corellon doesn't like orcs and goblinoids then (better said, why priests of Corellon receive an aura of fear against them and not against other creatures)?
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Post by Jordicus » Sat Apr 03, 2004 3:13 pm

_LuCkY_ wrote:I still wonder why Corellon doesn't like orcs and goblinoids then (better said, why priests of Corellon receive an aura of fear against them and not against other creatures)?

couple of links of interest for you. not sure how much is "official" background though

http://www.grey-company.org/TelRuid/rp/gods.html
Corellon Larethian:

Corellon is the emodiment of the highest ideals of elvenkind. "He" is the creator of the elven race, and as with all the elven gods, he can assume the form of either sex, but usually appears as a male, and is usually revered in this form.

Corellon is a powerful warrior god, one who has protected his precious creation with hands which have the gentleness of the artist and sculptor, and which wield weapons of unspeakable power when they don his dazzling battle gauntlets. Swift and terrible, Corellon's martial might belies his soft voice and appearance of unearthly beauty. The birth of the elves, people of song and dance, and quiet and still places, is believed by them to have originated in the terrible battle Corellon fought with Gruumsh One-Eye, First Power of the Orcs. The elves were born from Corellon's blood, and they do not forget this. Likewise, they do not forget the role of Corellon in banishing Lolth and the Drow from the surface world, and in many versions of that mythic battle Corellon instructs the remaining elves to be ever-vigilant in force of arms and might of magic against any return of the banished darkness, and also to be strong in heart against the corruption from within which allowed Lolth to pervert some of the surface elves in the days of the ancients.

Corellon is often referred to as "the protector and preserver of my life" by an elf in peril, reflecting his role as overseer and guardian of the elven people. While other deities may reflect the joy, delights and accomplishments of the elves, Corellon stands as an ever-vigilant watcher over them. Only when it is time for them to pass from the worlds he helped create does he renounce his watchfulness to Sehanine. Corellon is held never to sleep or rest. His life spirit flows from and into the elves and their lands, and while mortal elves daydream and reverie, Corellon never abandons his watchfulness. Here he stands in marked contrast to Sehanine, an antithesis which is emphasized by the myths which place her as his consort.

Yet, while Corellon ever watches over the Elven homelands, he is eternally open to learning. It is a typically elven paradox, that a god so versed in the arts and crafts, and so wise, is always open to learning from mortals. Corellon's might reinforces a genuine humility, and his humility is one of the sources of his might.

Corellon's role as an artist and craftsman is rooted in his love of life, growth and abundance. His artistic creations frequently feature prominently in Elven myth, and they usually have the properties of growth and emergence. Corellon creates magical woodland mazes which reveal deeper secrets to those who are guided to explore them, living sculptures of pure water, knowledge revealing "illusions", and much else.

Corellon watches over the boundaries of elven homelands in particular. His avatars wander the borders, often disguised, and he observes the actions of priests and craftsmen. Omens to priests are revealed in the form of falling stars, crystallomancy, sudden inspirations, and a feeling of physical strength, alerting the priest to unexpected danger. His avatar always appears wearing a sky-blue cloak, and a large amulet about his neck which has a blue crescent-moon motif within a large circle.

Priests of Corellon are expected to be leaders of Elven communities in many ways. They take a leading role in developing their own, and training others in, combat skills, magic, and arts and crafts. They are expected to mediate any disputes, and to maintain good relations with priests of other elven religions and sylvan deities.

http://www.matantisi.com/aquerra/rules/ ... rellon.htm
The God: Corellon is described an androgynous elf nearly 9 feet tall, with bone white skin and golden brown hair. He/She is always depicted in silver chain mail, and wielding a glowing long sword, and sometimes a long bow with ivory white arrows. Corellon?s sword is called Ardor Stella, and is said to be made of a piece of a star. According to legend, it was with this sword that he/she poked out the right eye of Grummash the Orc-God.

Corellon is the embodiment of the elven ideal. He is considered to have no equal in swordplay, to be a great artist, musician and craftsman. He is also a sentinel against the tide of evil, and responsible for casting the evil drow from among the elven people, and exiling their perverse goddess, Lolth.

Corellon is considered to be the High King of the elven people, a leader by example, who watches the doings of his progeny very closely. It is said he gives omens to those who wander away from the elven path or who are about to face some grave danger to the elven people in the form of falling stars, broken swords or ice frozen in strange shapes.

http://www.endor.com/~disbrow/elf.html
"When the god Gruumsh saw the creation of the Seldarine, the Elves, he regarded it as an abomination - and he became enraged. For the first time, desire for blood pulsed in a god's veins. Gruumsh prepared to crush the Seldarine, and some gods flocked to his standard while others stood aside. Still more, such as Moradin Soul-Forger and Garl Glittergold, aligned with the Seldarine, for they had - though not in conjunction with the Seldarine - set side areas of the world for their own purposes.

When the inflamed Gruumsh attacked Corellon Larethian, the leader of the Seldarine, a mightly battle began: the Godswar. How long it raged over the pristine fields of the planets, no one knows. Each combatant drew great wounds from the spirit and the body of his or her foe. Whole the other contenders fell by the wayside (badly hurt, though not mortally wounded), Gruumsh and Corellon would not break off. Instead, they continued their fierce combat. they traversed the planes, and they splashed the other's blood across the lands.

As night drew near, the powers of Gruumsh strengthened, while those of Corellon waned. All seemed lost for the Seldarine. Tears from the moon landed on Corellon's upturned, stricken face, and they mingled freely with his blood. Then Corellon looked to his companions - and it was there he found fortitude. He drew back his sword and, with one fearful blow, clove out the orb of Gruumsh (who became known as Gruumsh One-Eye.) The god howled in pain, black ichor spewing from the wound. Gruumsh turned and fled to the netherworld. There he nursed his hate, seeking forever after ways to shape the enemies of the Seldarine. And the greatest of his creations, made in the burning heat of rage and the blackness of his blood, was the Orcs. That is why, to this day, the Orcs and the Elves are such bitter enemies. From the beginning, even before their creation, the very essences of their gods strove against one another.

With Gruumsh defeat, the Seldarine and their allies continued with their works. The Seldarine gathered the moon's tears and the blood shed by Corellon in that great battle, placed these into the vessels they had created, and infused them with their own spirit. Each god imparted virtue into his or her creation, feeding and nurturing the newly formed race. Thus were the Elves born from the blood of Corellon Larethian, mixed with with the soil of the world, blessed with the tears of the moon, and given their nearness to divinity.

The other gods saw this example and set about infusing life into their own sadly misshapen vessels, with varied results. Alas, all other races were but sad imitations of the Elves."
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Post by Radda » Sat Apr 03, 2004 3:25 pm

Pick up a copy of Evermeet by Elaine Cunningham, explains a lot about the elves.
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Post by _LuCkY_ » Sat Apr 03, 2004 4:24 pm

Thanks Jordicus, thats really usefull.
Pick up a copy of Evermeet by Elaine Cunningham, explains a lot about the elves.
I might do that, though I still have a lot of books getting dusty on my shelves not being read yet :oops:
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Post by Gairus » Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:43 am

On worlds other than Avlis, Corellon is not a stand-alone deity but the leader of the elven pantheon known as the Seldarine. He does not have a single mantle like on Avlis, but several.

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Clerics on Avlis devoted to Corellon Larethian. Do they know anything about the Seldarine? Do they know it exists and more specifically do they know the names of other gods in this pantheon - and also the friends and foes of this pantheon.
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Post by Deider » Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:16 pm

Gairus wrote:Clerics on Avlis devoted to Corellon Larethian. Do they know anything about the Seldarine? Do they know it exists and more specifically do they know the names of other gods in this pantheon - and also the friends and foes of this pantheon.
The names of the Seldarine may exist in religious texts found on Avlis dealing with Corellon, but it's highly unlikely that they regard them as deities. Perhaps that will change when we link to some more FR worlds and clerics of these deities trickle into Avlis...

I think it would be well-known in Avlis that Corellon and Gruumsh are not friends. :)
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Post by Gairus » Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:28 pm

Thank you.

I have a PC who follows a Forgotten Realms god who is Corellon's daughter but no longer in the Seldarine...

If she visits then I will work from what you said then and try to determine the case of this specific god in an IC fashion. :)
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Post by DarknessFallsLight » Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:13 am

I have only seen one NPC cleric of Corellon (thankfully she converts you) and was wondering what the colors of Corellon are. She wears all blue but I dont know if that was default garb or actuall Corellon colors. Anyone know?
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Post by Rain&Clouds » Sun Jun 19, 2005 12:47 pm

"Corellon clerics always wear a blue quarter moon talisman. Clerics tend to wear a silver, platinum, or mithral circlet about their heads. They often wear things of the color azure." (from here: http://www.frontiernet.net/~jamesstarli ... ellon.html )


Actually I was under the impression that the clerics of Corellon wore yellow... but I must be confused.

The reason you've only seen one is probably because Corellon isn't (as far as I know) largely worshipped on Avlis... probably there aren't those many clerics of Corellon around (sadly).
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Post by Tesh » Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:38 pm

I ran into a PC cleric of Corellon the other day, it made for some good RP as my character had recently become aware of the story of Corellon's guidance of Dru'El.

FYI. this PC wore robes of black/grey/silver
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