Exactly how stupid is a character with 6 int?

Tangleroot · Post by **Tangleroot** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:26 pm

If your int is 6, the average tryglodyte is smarter than you. I repeat, the tryglodyte.

Try creating a character in nwn single player with int of 6 and observe the dialogue the character spouts to NPCs. Or make an extremely stupid character in Fallout / Fallout 2 and take some inspiration from there...'

No, you can't even speak properly. You're a sideshow freak from a Farrelly brothers movie.

Fifty · Post by **Fifty** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:48 pm

Heh, I seem to be in the wrong profession.

Calzier wrote:From a random website:
140 Top Civil Servants; Professors and Research Scientists.

130 Physicians and Surgeons; Lawyers; Engineers (Civil and Mechanical)

120 School Teachers; Pharmacists; Accountants; Nurses; Stenographers; Managers.

110 Foremen; Clerks; Telephone Operators; Salesmen; Policemen; Electricians.

100+ Machine Operators; Shopkeepers; Butchers; Welders; Sheet Metal Workers.

100- Warehousemen; Carpenters; Cooks and Bakers; Small Farmers; Truck and Van Drivers.

90 Laborers; Gardeners; Upholsterers; Farmhands; Miners; Factory Packers and Sorters.

Calzier · Post by **Calzier** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:54 pm

Fifty wrote:Heh, I seem to be in the wrong profession.
Calzier wrote:From a random website:
140 Top Civil Servants; Professors and Research Scientists.

130 Physicians and Surgeons; Lawyers; Engineers (Civil and Mechanical)

120 School Teachers; Pharmacists; Accountants; Nurses; Stenographers; Managers.

110 Foremen; Clerks; Telephone Operators; Salesmen; Policemen; Electricians.

100+ Machine Operators; Shopkeepers; Butchers; Welders; Sheet Metal Workers.

100- Warehousemen; Carpenters; Cooks and Bakers; Small Farmers; Truck and Van Drivers.

90 Laborers; Gardeners; Upholsterers; Farmhands; Miners; Factory Packers and Sorters.

Hey - don't quote me...

I just found it on a random website. And these are supposed to be "on average" -not to mention that IQ tests are fundamentally flawed (how can a test that measures 'inherent' intelligent be susceptable to training - ie you can train yourself to do better - or culturally specific? IQ tests are typically both. Also, no-one's even that sure ~what~ IQ tests even meaure anyway, other than the ability to do IQ tests.

Fifty · Post by **Fifty** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:04 pm

I was just having a light-hearted "heh", and the "from a random website" bit is still there. I am a teacher, but I ought to be a factory packer, it would seem. Shows what some hard work can do for you

DanishPastry · Post by **DanishPastry** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:12 pm

Calzier wrote:
140 Top Civil Servants; Professors and Research Scientists.

130 Physicians and Surgeons; Lawyers; Engineers (Civil and Mechanical)

120 School Teachers; Pharmacists; Accountants; Nurses; Stenographers; Managers.

110 Foremen; Clerks; Telephone Operators; Salesmen; Policemen; Electricians.

100+ Machine Operators; Shopkeepers; Butchers; Welders; Sheet Metal Workers.

100- Warehousemen; Carpenters; Cooks and Bakers; Small Farmers; Truck and Van Drivers.

90 Crafters; Laborers; Gardeners; Upholsterers; Farmhands; Miners; Factory Packers and Sorters.

I knew it...

Micah · Post by **Micah** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:15 pm

DanishPastry wrote:
Calzier wrote:
140 Top Civil Servants; Professors and Research Scientists.

130 Physicians and Surgeons; Lawyers; Engineers (Civil and Mechanical)

120 School Teachers; Pharmacists; Accountants; Nurses; Stenographers; Managers.

110 Foremen; Clerks; Telephone Operators; Salesmen; Policemen; Electricians.

100+ Machine Operators; Shopkeepers; Butchers; Welders; Sheet Metal Workers.

100- Warehousemen; Carpenters; Cooks and Bakers; Small Farmers; Truck and Van Drivers.

90 Crafters; Laborers; Gardeners; Upholsterers; Farmhands; Miners; Factory Packers and Sorters.
I knew it... :P

Yep.

Marleh · Post by **Marleh** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:19 pm

Hold on a moment - Telephone operator? Stenographer? Just how old is this list?

Its bunk by the way.

Pekarion · Post by **Pekarion** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:27 pm

answer to the question, V. stupid

Dark_EK · Post by **Dark_EK** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:20 am

Pekarion wrote:answer to the question, V. stupid

+1

kinerata · Post by **kinerata** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:56 am

so stupid you cant really play it without making a huge effort, and after a while that effort makes the character damn enjoyable to play. there is never a need to have 6 int unless you are totally min maxing. you just need to add 2 points there to make it 8 and slightly more playable.

[edit] spelling

VETT SCALES L7 · Post by **VETT SCALES L7** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:47 am

6 Int= Real stupid. Someone asking your pc to find his own ass with both hands will probably be disappointed in having to wait several minutes before the task can be accomplished

Psyco · Post by **Psyco** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:02 am

VETT SCALES L7 wrote:6 Int= Real stupid. Someone asking your pc to find his own ass with both hands will probably be disappointed in having to wait several minutes before the task can be accomplished

that is after having to spend several minutes explaining to your PC exactly want the words "find", "hands", and "ass" actually mean.

tric · Post by **tric** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:06 am

-furrows his brow drooling-

Aloro · Post by **Aloro** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:18 am

Alex III wrote:Moreover, what if I make a half-orc with 4 int?

Welllll... you can't start with a stat below 8 in NWN, before racial modifiers. Half-orcs get a -2 int, meaning 6 is the lowest you can go for base stats.

- Aloro

neurotap · Post by **neurotap** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 4:46 am

Aloro wrote:
Alex III wrote:Moreover, what if I make a half-orc with 4 int?
Welllll... you can't start with a stat below 8 in NWN, before racial modifiers. Half-orcs get a -2 int, meaning 6 is the lowest you can go for base stats.

- Aloro

I played a Barbarian with an Int of 4 in PnP.

Never knew how many different grunts and wack-ass gestures a person could make until I rolled that character. It was fun. Too bad I can't re-create him in NWN, damn restrictions.

I wish NWN made dice rolls rather than a pre-set point system. Got much more variation and possibilities rolling 3d6.

Post by **tindertwiggy** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 4:53 am

Alex III wrote:You see, I'm having trouble relating the numeric value of 6 int to a real life example. The only reference I can directly use was this -
An INT of 6 would then correspond to IQ of 60, which is likely to be associated with poor learning abilities, limited social skills, reduced linguist capacity.
Reduced linguist capacity - ok, my char won't be able to read Shakespeare, that's granted. But should he mess up grammar? Or should he just have trouble with the complex words? Or should he have a limited vocabulary, and how limited?

This is too rich

. It's Reduced linguistic capacity. "Ic" makes it an ability.

A linguist is a person who studies linguistics, thus a "reduced linguist capacity" connotates the reduction of a group of peoples' capacity for members of their group to devote themselves to the study of linguistics.

Alex III · Post by **Alex III** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:39 am

*scratches head*
My bad, mista. Mah stoopid. Mah no good with words.
*searches his pockets for a few minutes with an intent expression*
Oooh, my sooo sorry!
*finally finds the club hung on his back*
My won't never speek sooo stoopid again!
*bonk! with the club on his head*
Ya heer meh? Yoo... *thud* will... *Thud* nevah!... *Thud!* bee!... *THUD* dum!! *THUD!* AGAINRRR!... *THUD! THUDD!!! THUDDDDD!!!!! THUDDDD!!!11!!oneoneeleven* RRRRGHRArrrrrgggghhhhhhhouch...
See, mistah? Me no speek stoopid 'gain... ouchouchouchpoorpoorpoorstoopidmeeeeeh

Alex III · Post by **Alex III** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:03 pm

Soorreeee! My made stoopid mihstake 'gain, meh speek like meh have 7 intel... into... intolle... 7 smartness, but 7 be twice as many as 6, meeh kno' now!
*drool, eyes blank*
Wha' was meh talking 'bout 'gain?
Oh, my remember!!! Wait for my to do a littlesee-littlesee fire so meh can put flame on meh club before meeeh Thuddd!!'s meeh head 'gain? Meh promise to no light big big magicsy tower this time...
*drool some more*
*curtain, applauses, lights out, thank you for your attention*

Isengrim · Post by **Isengrim** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:18 pm

I'd call that a waste of talent! Why not to try this IC?

Oh on a side note, was it said anywhere what is Elan's (OotS) INT score? I doubt more than 8 ...

Havoulov · Post by **Havoulov** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:25 pm

Huh ! herd samuan bihaind mi! Mi wet in pants *takes off pants in elf gate*
Ohhhh! *puts whole hand in* *smiles*

*Extends full streches and stained palm*

Tsokleet!

Shardthepious · Post by **Shardthepious** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:09 pm

i consider Forest Gump to be a INT 8 person.....so hmm may be Homer Simpson is INT 6... everyone know what i'm talking about

Start tinking about Donut in the middle of a decisive battle...not a good thing.

David A Smith · Post by **David A Smith** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 7:00 pm

My 2 cents for intellegence of 6 (I have a cousin in this catagory, unfortunately)-

A lot of the things you probably take for granted, you shouldn't.

You will have a hard time remembering if you have rented a room somewhere, until you have had that room for a long time. You will forget things that are important, like bringing Healing kits with you on an adventure (even if you are wise enough to know you need them, you forgot you haven't replaced the last ones you used), or where some particular plant grows you want to harvest.

You will tend to be loud when talking with other people, because the louder you are, the more attention you get. You will have a very hard time being able to hide your feelings about something, or to restrain yourself from acting on impulse - arguements often lead to some physical action on your part (running away, smashing a table, throwing a fit, hitting someone....).

You will tend to not understand the value of money - Sure buy that stack of Hot Arrows for 10,000 gold! Or could I just trade you my 2 Rune ring of Strength? Although for this, a HIGH Wisdom could probably mitigate it.

You will need someone to periodically watch out for you as well. In reality, people with an intellegence this low have a hard time taking care of themselves, especially dealing with new situations. You are also easily distracted, so you will tend to wander off on occasion, or forget why you are doing what you are doing.

You CAN learn to craft, but will have a difficult time learning something without help. You tend to learn by doing things over & over again, rather than having someone just give you directions once.

Not an easy thing, to have an INT at level 6. And one of the biggest question to have to answer, is why are you out adventuring? Most people at this INT level do not search out new experiences, but like to keep things the same. It is far more comfortable for them. Learning something new is stressful.

In the case of my cousin, getting a job at McDonalds, and actually being able to earn money for himself was a HUGE accomplishment, and is about the limit of what he can do in the workforce.

If you really want to play a character with in INT this low, you should probably play the game WITHOUT taking any notes, or making/using any maps. If you can't remember which tunnel branch to take without looking at your notes, you can bet your character can't. And at INT 6, he didn't remember to take notes.

Final Shinryuu · Post by **Final Shinryuu** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 7:16 pm

*A dead horse peeks in and looks around, then sneaks off into the night*
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Dark_EK · Post by **Dark_EK** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 7:19 pm

INT 6 = rain man

Gumble Tinkertumble · Post by **Gumble Tinkertumble** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:10 am

Dark_EK wrote:INT 6 = rain man

Hardly. He was a savant!