Manual bic transfers

[Darkfire]

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For bic transfers:

Please PM:

Darkfire
Themicles
Ladyphoenix77

(or all 3 with a batch PM, even listed them 1 line each above so it's easy to copy/paste) with your information, in this format:

Forum: BobsForumName
Request #: 1
Character name: Bob Example
Gamespy: BobsLogon
Present World: Ysgard
Target World: Avlis

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Forum:
Request #:
Character name:
Gamespy:
Present World:
Target World:

Note: We do not transfer .bics from Avlis to Arkaz or Arkaz to Avlis. We'll send you a notification of when your character .bic has been transferred to the target World's vault. I can't give you an accurate estimation of how long it will take unfortunately, but once a few things get setup things should be moving a lot quicker and you can expect the transfers to be done in a reasonable time. I'll let you know as soon as possible. If you have multiple requests, please make sure each character is done with the above format.

Additionally, there is an expected wait time until an easier method of transferring is setup. For those that request a transfer, during the waiting time, we ask that you please not play the characters until notified that the transfer is complete. Personally, if you are in a hurry to play your PC, I would suggest waiting until I update this thread saying that the "new method" is ready and transfers can be done quickly.

Really sorry for the inconvenience.

Edit:

The wait time has now been moved to reasonable.

Also note with what Darkfire mentions here, the person notifying you will be doing so on their own worlds forums. So if you are transferring to Hala/Ysgard, I will be PMing you on the Hala boards, not on the Avlis boards once I finish getting the bic and such reinserted into our world. Likewise for transfers from Ysgard to Avlis, MadKat, Darkfire or whoever will be PMing you on the Avlis boards when they have completed bic insertion and DB location updates.

[solitude_peace2]

That sounds like a lot of work for the staff. How long before the portals are available?

[Belasco]

It is a lot of work for the staff and we are all very grateful that they've volunteered to do it. We currently don't have an ETA for the portals, but it is a high priority and is actively being worked on.

Belasco
FOIG, Inc.

[K'Tomma]

Oh ... here's a question ...

When the bic is successully transfered to the new world ... where will the character be? For example ... will all characters coming back from Hala end up in Deglos ? Or will they be placed in the server they're most active on; as listed in the forums ?

Sorry for being ignorant ... but I really have no clue how this stuff works

[PsiOmega]

This is just my assumption but you will most likely end up:

• In the start area
• Where you last logged out from a specific world*

*Note: Hala/Ysgard are two separate servers. As an effect, if you last logged out from Ysgard but connect to Hala, you will most likely end up in the start area.
The pattern should be familiar to anyone who has server jumped often enough.

[Themicles]

This is just my assumption but you will most likely end up:

• In the start area
• Where you last logged out from a specific world*

*Note: Hala/Ysgard are two separate servers. As an effect, if you last logged out from Ysgard but connect to Hala, you will most likely end up in the start area.
The pattern should be familiar to anyone who has server jumped often enough.

Not quite accurate:

Server hopping on a single world behaves different from server hopping from one world to another. We run special code to try to outright prevent world hopping because beyond just being cheesy, there are technical issues with it as well.

I'm going to work with PJ to come up with an easy procedure for the Avlis side to modify the lastlocation table for these transfers. I can handle the Tairis and Hala sides myself since this is the same database procedure I've done many times over the years when we've had Vaultster errors.

[K'Tomma]

Maybe I didn't make the question as clear as it could have been. When the manual bic tranfer is made; which Avlis server should we be logging in to ? Does it make a differance ?

If coming home from Hala ... would one need to log into the Deglos server first ? Or once told the transfer has happened; do we log into which ever Avlis server we feel like logging in to ?

[Themicles]

If you're coming *from* Hala, you don't log into any Avlis server until you've been notified that the transfer is complete. If you're coming from Hala, you need to go to Ysgard first. When the transfer is complete, you need to log into Deglos.

These manual transfers require that the team member doing them also updates that character's last location data manually or else the anti-world-hop code will boot you.

Just deleting the entry doesn't work properly, so to keep things simple and I guess IC, we're using the same servers you'd normally arrive at / leave from.

[Darkfire]

The wait time has now been moved to reasonable.

[Darkfire]

After discussing this with a few people, I think I need to mention a few things. (quick note: check the first post to see the proper way to go about a request.)


You are not placing some horrendous burden upon us by requesting a transfer. Do not be afraid to use this and request a transfer if you need one. Multiple transfers are allowed for the same character or the same person - as long as it is kept reasonable. If you "just want to go Off-World" that is an acceptable reason, just as long as you stay there for a little while. If you have planned events that are expecting your attendance, then be there.

I am really disappointed in the fact that some people are thinking this is an attempt to cut Avlis from the rest of CoPaP. This is a temporary issue that will be fixed: viewtopic.php?f=174&t=53473 Please leave your nay-saying at the door. That's the last I want to hear of it.

I'll say it once again, requesting a manual transfer is not a bad thing. If you miss an event that you need to be at, that is your fault. Thank you for the consideration, and to those who choose not because they are still not wanting to be a burden... thank you, it is unnecessary, but still thanks. To those who miss an event and then complain about it, or just complain about not being able to go to different worlds... it falls on deaf ears from now on.

This can be abused - those who abuse it will be denied in their transfer request. However, using it as it is intended is encouraged.

[Darkfire]

Updated format:



Forum: BobsForumName
Request #: 1
Character name: Bob Example
Gamespy: BobsLogon
Present World: Ysgard
Target World: Avlis

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[b]Forum:[/b]
[b]Request #:[/b]
[b]Character name:[/b]
[b]Gamespy:[/b]
[b]Present World:[/b]
[b]Target World:[/b]

Why? Because it turns out there's a lot of people who have different forum names associated with different PCs, and it makes it a lot easier for those notifying you that the task is complete. The person sending the notification is not always the person who received the original PM, so this should hopefully complicate things less.

Thank you!

[Darkfire]

This is still being worked on.

Very sorry for the inconvenience.


-Darkfire

[solitude_peace2]

Thanks for the update... now get back to work!

*ducks*

[thetamlyone]

Um, are transfers to and from Arkaz impossible? I've been afk a lot, so if that's a stupid question, we'll blame it on that.

[Darkfire]

Note: We do not transfer .bics from Avlis to Arkaz or Arkaz to Avlis.

I'd not blame it on you being afk, simply you not reading the very first actual line in the 1st post.

[PlasmaJohn]

Um, are transfers to and from Arkaz impossible? I've been afk a lot, so if that's a stupid question, we'll blame it on that.

Not directly no since there was never a link between our worlds. You'll have to travel to a world that does have a link and then make the request.

[thetamlyone]

How about we blame it on my being tired last night and an idiot....sorry.

[thetamlyone]

In my defense, though, I did realize what a stupid question it was when I woke up this morning (as in before I even got to the computer to see what you said), so I'm not a complete idiot. Honestly, sometimes I think I just need not to ask questions here. Never fail to ask something that makes me feel stupid later..... *sighs*

Big thanks to the team for being willing to do the transfers. I was hoping not to add to the work, but I'll be sending a PM very soon. Maybe I'll get that right, at least!

[LadyPhoenix77]

Updated format:



Forum: BobsForumName
Request #: 1
Character name: Bob Example
Gamespy: BobsLogon
Present World: Ysgard
Target World: Avlis

Code: Select all

[b]Forum:[/b]
[b]Request #:[/b]
[b]Character name:[/b]
[b]Gamespy:[/b]
[b]Present World:[/b]
[b]Target World:[/b]

Why? Because it turns out there's a lot of people who have different forum names associated with different PCs, and it makes it a lot easier for those notifying you that the task is complete. The person sending the notification is not always the person who received the original PM, so this should hopefully complicate things less.

Thank you!

Also note with what Darkfire mentions here, the person notifying you will be doing so on their own worlds forums. So if you are transferring to Hala/Ysgard, I will be PMing you on the Hala boards, not on the Avlis boards once I finish getting the bic and such reinserted into our world. Likewise for transfers from Ysgard to Avlis, MadKat, Darkfire or whoever will be PMing you on the Avlis boards when they have completed bic insertion and DB location updates.

[Darkfire]

I'll not be handling any bic transfers.

-DF

[Darkfire]

All right, back to handling bic transfers.


Please read the 1st post if you have not.


-Darkfire

[Mabus]

Here's a quick question:

I'm coming from Ysgard to Deglos and submitted a transfer there and I was told it was passed on. Do I need to submit a transfer here as well for the same transfer, or do I only need to send it once to the "current world"?

[LadyPhoenix77]

Here's a quick question:

I'm coming from Ysgard to Deglos and submitted a transfer there and I was told it was passed on. Do I need to submit a transfer here as well for the same transfer, or do I only need to send it once to the "current world"?

The quick answer is no.

A longer answer is: Transfer requests can be sent to one of several people, but are posted where all who are handling the transfers will see them.

While I also am making this post I'll go ahead and clarify or explain a few other things as we have had some troubles or issues which sometimes length the time in which a transfer takes.

The quickest, most efficient and probably easiest way for transfers to get done is PMing one of three people, depending on the world you are wanting to portal off of. Myself for Ysgard/Hala, Themicles for Tairis and Darkfire for Avlis. As I stated above, yes you can send it to any of them people who have been listed, but as the three I've listed here are the three who handle sending the bics off to the target world most of the time, it saves some wait time for you.

Another thing is, once you have sent your transfer in, don't play that particular character, and don't log in to the target world with that character to see if the transfer is done yet. Wait for the okay from whoever it is saying the transfer is complete. Otherwise we have to start investigating why Bob's bic that Darkfire sent me is dated older than the one that I already have in Bob's vault.

And patience is key. Yes we've said that the wait period is more reasonable, and some people have said that it's only taken them 12, 24, 36 or so hours or less. While we try to do these as quickly as possible, don't expect to always have the best wait time. Now, if it's been a week or something like that and you have heard nothing from anyone about the transfer, yeah, you may want to contact one of us to see if it was missed, as it can happen sometimes. Like Darkfire said above, you aren't place some horrendous burden on us by requesting transfers, just leave reasonable time for them to be done, and keep in mind a few things I've explained above that can make these go quicker.

[Mabus]

*nods* Alrighty. This is my first transfer request so I wasn't completely sure on what to expect. So just for the record I did log on to my character to check, but it was before your initial PM stating not to. I was surprised to see him listed as I didn't recall him ever even being on an Avlis world, so it lead me to believe he could have been transferred. He wasn't. That being said, if I were thinking straight, instead of logging in, I realized later I could have simply highlighted that character at the char. select screen and simply looked over his stats to see if they coincided with his current "supposed" stats. If I had checked I'd seen he was like level 1, instead of 10. So I would hope this is an example that could be set for anyone thinking of logging in to check that character.

[Darkfire]

Please message LP77 instead of Arkon from now on. First post is updated to reflect this.