Appraise- How does it work

gwydion2 · Post by **gwydion2** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:14 pm

I'm trying to figure if it's worth having really high appraise skill and looking for appraise items.

Are there levels of success within 'favourable' or is it just a matter of favourable or not? From what I've seen the price I get charged is always the same with a favourable reaction, so I'm inclined to think more skill is pointless. I do wonder though, if I had say 50 appraise including items, I might notice a difference.

Anyone know how it works?

Alphonse · Post by **Alphonse** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:19 pm

appraise skill is only calculated the first time you talk to a merchant for that level

when you level it will recalculate it

Post by **RCon** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:21 pm

Alphonse wrote:appraise skill is only calculated the first time you talk to a merchant for that level

when you level it will recalculate it

This is not entirely accurate, but for more info, I'll have to use PJs special stamp...

FOIG

gwydion2 · Post by **gwydion2** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:05 pm

RCon wrote: FOIG

I'm not asking for any info on how Avlis does things.

My main question is on the mechanics of NWN so I don't think FOIG is entirely fair on that aspect.

Post by **Jazz** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:14 pm

Not all merchants use the favorable/not favorable thingy (which I don't really know how it works), but some will actually look at your appraise and do some sort of calculation. So yes, putting a lot of skill points in appraise might be worth it.

*hopes he's made it clearer to gwydion2 without being FOIG-slapped by RCon or PJ*

Psyco · Post by **Psyco** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:28 pm

From what I understand it only works on merchants who are set up to use it. Most of the ones that predate SoU (when the skill was added) are not set up to use it as you couldn't set them up to use it when they were built.

From my understandings of the way the skill checks work (and this is somethign Avlis cannot change) it will check you once and only once against a merchant unless something changes your base appraise skill (i.e. you take points at level up) or the server resets. Just putting on or taking off appraise gear is not enough to make it redo the check.

As the checks are all hardcoded it is a bit of a blackbox, and not somethign I have taken teh time to really work out what is going on, your best bet might be the bioware boards as someone somewhere will have had the time and motivation to see what it is doing.

Sinbadsam · Post by **Sinbadsam** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:31 pm

Well yes appraise is usefull, ask the crafters who buy their supplies. There are some places that take Appraise into account more than others.

From what I recall the appraise roll lasts with that merchant, until the server is reset or something/item changes your appraise score.

I have one character with an Appraise score with out buffs/items of 27, with everything it is 36.

Yes she can buy some things cheaper than some can.

Xandor Amakiir · Post by **Xandor Amakiir** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:16 am

Some merchants really become cheap with the right role ((xandor has between 10 and 20 depending on gear etc)) and pay extra when your selling...

But i also use it when i'm playing the scroll or magic merchant, if people play me a nice dice role and do the proper RP to try and convince me to lower my prices, wel they might be in luck

Krator · Post by **Krator** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:56 am

There are certain 'degrees' of favorable/unfavorable.

The function that calls appraise, is gplotAppraiseOpenStore. Depending on what you roll for Appraise, the merchant's markup/down goes up or down. Might be worth looking into nw_i0_plot if you are familiar with nwscript and want to know the details.