Blind / Deaf monsters

Kuromimi505 · Post by **Kuromimi505** » Sat Aug 20, 2005 11:39 pm

Thinking about getting the blindness&deafness spell for my character.

I was wondering if anyone had any info on the effects in Neverwinter. Blindness gives a 50% miss chance I assume, but...

Does blindness affect the AI?

As in, if a monster is running to attack you, you blind him, does he stop and lose you? Or does he unerringly continue on to attack you?
Or, if you blind him before he ever sees you, does he just stand there until you enter his sight range? (right next to him?)

Thanks!

Georex · Post by **Georex** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:01 am

From what I've seen...if you attack a blinded monster, it will target you and engage in melee with the same penalties as if you had invisibility up. If you disengage for a moment and stand still, sometimes the baddies will lose a lock on you, but it seems kinda random.

Hope that helps!

Nob · Post by **Nob** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:02 am

For blindness....

If you're currently engaged in combat with it, the monster will follow you until you leave it's Line of Sight.

This doesn't matter even if you nail them out of invis, they'll target you anyway and follow you until you either go invis yourself or duck out of sight around a corner.

Once you do, they'll go back to their loitering point and just stand there until you go back and engage them.

Midknight · Post by **Midknight** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 10:50 pm

As in, if a monster is running to attack you, you blind him, does he stop and lose you? Or does he unerringly continue on to attack you?

Yes, it can, but often they can reaqquire a lock through use of other senses, i.e. making a listen check. Note that a blind character treats all targets as having 50% concealment, so even if it does continue attacking you it won't connect as much.

Lauriel Senansha · Post by **Lauriel Senansha** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:35 am

What does deafness do ?

(Without the blindness I mean - thinking Thunderstones here).

Lauriel

Sathsarrion · Post by **Sathsarrion** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:40 am

Lauriel Senansha wrote:What does deafness do ?

(Without the blindness I mean - thinking Thunderstones here).

Lauriel

auto failure on listen checks, and 20% arcane spell filure

Midknight · Post by **Midknight** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:21 am

Hit 'em with both, and you should be undetectable... don't think blindsense or other forms of detection are implemented. On another note, does True Seeing counter blindness?

downsystem · Post by **downsystem** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:29 am

Well i got a ? does blindness concealment bonus from the darkness spell stack with invisibilities concealment bonus?

NWDuneAuron · Post by **NWDuneAuron** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:09 am

downsystem wrote:Well i got a ? does blindness concealment bonus from the darkness spell stack with invisibilities concealment bonus?

Concealment never stacks above 50%.

loki70 · Post by **loki70** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:38 am

Midknight wrote:Hit 'em with both, and you should be undetectable... don't think blindsense or other forms of detection are implemented. On another note, does True Seeing counter blindness?

It should, according to most sources, but from what I have seen it doesn't. Also, if you hit them with blindness/deafness, you can slam them with spells with an area of effect and they can't track you, so yeah, pretty useful.

downsystem · Post by **downsystem** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:20 am

thanks for the thoughts.

Dralix · Post by **Dralix** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:40 pm

downsystem wrote:Well i got a ? does blindness concealment bonus from the darkness spell stack with invisibilities concealment bonus?

It's my understanding that darkness is supposed to be only pierced by ultravision. Meaning that if the creature you're fighting doesn't have ultravision, it should not be able to hit you in magical darkness.

Although my experience is that either this isn't true, or there are a lot of creatures with ultravision.

mortzestus · Post by **mortzestus** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:41 pm

NWDuneAuron wrote:
downsystem wrote:Well i got a ? does blindness concealment bonus from the darkness spell stack with invisibilities concealment bonus?
Concealment never stacks above 50%.

Concealment never stacks, period.