Whats the max strength you can have?

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Whats the max strength you can have?

Post by downsystem » Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:31 am

I was curious what the max strength anyone can have in nwn. I the book it only shows up to +30. Is this the max you can take it? Is it possible to make it higher with spells or potions?
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Post by Psyco » Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:35 am

Max str is 12 above your base str. So 30 is the max for someone with 18 base str.

As for actual max, the absolute max is 255, after that bad things happen, very very bad things. But no PC will ever get anywhere near that.
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ok so

Post by downsystem » Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:38 am

i had a 15 base so i can get up to 27. Does that mean that if you use a potion of bulls strength it wont raise it to thirty or will it still?
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Post by Psyco » Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:55 am

If you have 15 str with no item, spells ar anything else boosting it, the most you can ever have is 27.

If you want to go higher than 27 you need to use the bonus stat points you get when you level up to increase your base str.
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Post by A Wanderer » Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:00 pm

If you mean to take a feat requiring 30+ str, you have to have the base str of 30+ not including items or spells.

Not sure if that's your ultimate question.
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Post by Significant Owl » Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:17 pm

The max for a character on Avlis would be if you were a Half-Orc starting out with maxed strength ( 20 Str ). You use all your stat increases and take all the Great Strength feats, and you'll have a base strength of 40, which can then be increased via items to the maximum possible on Avlis, 52.

Edit: *Shakes fist at forgetting wemics* So really.. The max strength is 57, sorry.
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Post by Sathsarrion » Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:20 pm

Psyco wrote:If you have 15 str with no item, spells ar anything else boosting it, the most you can ever have is 27.

If you want to go higher than 27 you need to use the bonus stat points you get when you level up to increase your base str.
one exception here is that polymorph abilities will alter your base STR

The absolute max STR, for a lvl 40 wemic, fully buffed is 56. A druid/shifter with dragon shape might be able to get slightly better, its been so long since Ive done that, I dont remember.
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Post by Talwin Hawkins » Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:21 pm

beat that dev crit save :shock:
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Post by krackq » Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:42 pm

Talwin Hawkins wrote:beat that dev crit save :shock:
That would be like a 53 fort save or something... not impossible but difficult.. wow
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Post by Sathsarrion » Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:47 pm

Signifigant Owl wrote:Edit: *Shakes fist at forgetting wemics* So really.. The max strength is 57, sorry.
56. A wemics ECL means the miss out on the stat bonus at lvl 4. you forgot full blooded orcs too, they max out at 53, and a few others, gnolls, half ogres.....
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Post by Significant Owl » Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:51 pm

I'm sorry, great master. :idea:
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Post by Sathsarrion » Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:58 pm

simplified version: without polymorphing, the absolute max for any stat is 50 plus or minus racial mods, minus 1 if its a race with ECL 3
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Post by drunkenpig » Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:05 pm

Sathsarrion wrote:
Signifigant Owl wrote:Edit: *Shakes fist at forgetting wemics* So really.. The max strength is 57, sorry.
56. A wemics ECL means the miss out on the stat bonus at lvl 4. you forgot full blooded orcs too, they max out at 53, and a few others, gnolls, half ogres.....
what I'd like to know is how much you could carry with a STR of 56 and what the bonus would be :)

I can get my wemic up to 37 STR which allows me to carry 3173 pounds, not sure what the bonus is at that point.
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Post by Sathsarrion » Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:13 pm

the bonus would be 23, no idea what the carry limit would be
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Post by Zebranky » Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:45 pm

drunkenpig wrote:what I'd like to know is how much you could carry with a STR of 56 and what the bonus would be :)
Based on a test I just did, 22773 lbs. :shock:

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Post by Alphonse » Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:48 pm

*grins evilly*

its not the max for NPCs
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Post by Krishna » Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:03 pm

Alphonse wrote:*grins evilly*

its not the max for NPCs
Well heck lets take a full-blooded ogre from PnP into epic eh? They get +12 strength if I remember right, now lets max the strength out 18+12=30 now lets take all forty levels make them lets say fighter 30+10= 40 now lets add in feats (correct me if I am wrong but a fighter gets 21 feats total in epic)

So: 18(base)+12(race)=30+10(statistic modfiers via level)+21(epic strength)=61 strength total

Yeah, that pretty freaking strong. But we could use an ancient dragon or any number of things getting pretty ridiculous heh..
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Post by Dralix » Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:08 pm

Talwin Hawkins wrote:beat that dev crit save :shock:
Give me three more levels ... which should take about three years.

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Post by Levis Pie » Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:40 pm

drunkenpig wrote:
Sathsarrion wrote:
Signifigant Owl wrote:Edit: *Shakes fist at forgetting wemics* So really.. The max strength is 57, sorry.
56. A wemics ECL means the miss out on the stat bonus at lvl 4. you forgot full blooded orcs too, they max out at 53, and a few others, gnolls, half ogres.....
what I'd like to know is how much you could carry with a STR of 56 and what the bonus would be :)

I can get my wemic up to 37 STR which allows me to carry 3173 pounds, not sure what the bonus is at that point.
I saw a lvl 40 Half-Orc Barb on a different server, and he could carry almost 7500 lbs. Not sure about the bonus though.

....actually I don't even remember what his strenght was... :oops:
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Post by Marleh » Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:52 pm

Levis Pie wrote:
I saw a lvl 40 Half-Orc Barb on a different server, and he could carry almost 7500 lbs. Not sure about the bonus though.

....actually I don't even remember what his strenght was... :oops:
Was he carrying 8000 lbs of vervaine, calendula, marrowroot, glowmoss distillate and mithral, still move faster than most monks, and go by the name of Ed?
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Post by Zonr_0 » Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:31 pm

somebody in a one shot 20th level pnp game we did played a Troll War hulk and had a strength of 55 with a vorpal hastened super keen sword. His light load was something in the thousands, and his push/drag we calculated to be something like 56 tons.
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Post by apandapion » Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:11 pm

NWN dragon shape feat gets a 48 str, so if you buff that by 12 points you hit 60. Not sure if the Str is the same in Avlis.
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Post by Rain&Clouds » Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:41 pm

What does that kind of strenght mean IC? You can crush a continent like a soda can? :shock:
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Post by mortzestus » Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:59 pm

Krishna wrote:So: 18(base)+12(race)=30+10(statistic modfiers via level)+21(epic strength)=61 strength total
However, Great STR is not available as an epic bonus feat for any class so it can't be taken more than seven times.
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so if im getting you all right

Post by downsystem » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:57 pm

cause i didnt know this rule of base strength +12 means that cause i origionally put 15 in my strength ability that i can only go up to 27 and all your crazy max strength ideas wont get me to thirty like i was thinking. so now im going to have to go to plan be on my character. Thanks for all your help.
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