Makeing a tough character.

[Dirk Cutlass]

Basically it works against any form of concealment then?

Yes. Exactlty. Whether that be Ghostly Visage (10%), Ethereal Visage (25% ? I think), Invisible (50%), or the conceal you get from Improved Invis after attacking (50%).

You get a re-roll chance, which essentially means the following:

To miss someone under influcence of Ghostly Visage, miss % is 10% x 10% = 1%

... for ethereal visage, it is 25% x 25% = 6.25%

... for Invis/Improved Inivs it is 50% x 50% = 25%

It makes a big difference. I like it.

[Enverex]

Yeah, it was my next planned feat, but by your calculation it is infact better than I thought (my logic was that the miss % would be about half, heh).

[The hand04]

Basically it works against any form of concealment then?

Yes. Exactlty. Whether that be Ghostly Visage (10%), Ethereal Visage (25% ? I think), Invisible (50%), or the conceal you get from Improved Invis after attacking (50%).

You get a re-roll chance, which essentially means the following:

To miss someone under influcence of Ghostly Visage, miss % is 10% x 10% = 1%

... for ethereal visage, it is 25% x 25% = 6.25%

... for Invis/Improved Inivs it is 50% x 50% = 25%

It makes a big difference. I like it.

after testing, this is the same logic I got, but I could not get the dummy to attack or find a way to remove the invisibility and keep the concealment.. So, ultimately I did not know if the feat would be persistent after the enemy attacks and looses the invisibility attribute.. But thank you for you sound reply..

[kombinat]

Cast See Invisibility on yourself after Improved Invisibility on the dummy then attack it?

[Dirk Cutlass]

Try it against some Invisible Stalkers (they cast Improved Invis on themselves), or an NPC mage, or even a PC mage that wants to try the experiment.

[mortzestus]

With Blind Fight you get to reroll the mischance if:

- The defender is invisible
- The defender is concealed
- The attacker is blind
- The attacker is under a Darkness spell

Both See Invisibility or True Seeing will negate the "concealment" provided by a regular Invisibility spell. Neither of them will work against the real concealment provided by other spells like Ghostly Visage, Displacement, Improved Invisibility or Ethereal Visage.

Improved Invisibility is a special case because it applies both invisibility and concealment effects on the target. See Invisibility or True seeing will negate the invisibility part but not the concealment effect (even though Improved Invisibility really shouldn't work like this). Only Blind Fight will help against the concealment effect, either from the spells mentioned above or from feats like Empty Body or Self Concealment.