Asian characters? Custom races?

[AkumaDaimyo]

Are there asian type characters in this big huge server to server universe you guys have going? Any asian type weapons? And as far as custom races what is allowed? Couldnt someone just create a really nasty uber race? Sorry just very interested in what is or isnt allowed. Like what about simply looking strange liek wings or tails? Is ECL incorporated? I noticed Lizardmen in your world dont appear to be the classic lizard men in the Monster Manual. No addtional hitdice, no stat adjusment no ECL. Or do you just create new races that arent so powerfull as to need a ECL?

[Keflex]

As for custom races:

portal.php?getpage=customraces

There are specialized CEP weapons that are based off of Asian weapons, as well as the Asian weapons found in standard NWN (Katana, Chakram, Kama, Kukri, Sai, etc.). Some of the CEP ones don't work with weapon-enhancing spells or feats (these will have a * next to their weapon type).

[Jordicus]

ECL is applied to a number of the custom races.

Not sure exactly what you mean by 'asian type characters'. Avlis does not at this time have any country/nation/culture which is inherintly asian as we typically define it. The closest thing would be Khanjar Kuro, but it does not exist in the online Avlis world yet, and there would be real no way for a character to be "born" there and travel to the mainland.

hope that clears it up

[AkumaDaimyo]

So can I make a race of my own then? Or would it need to be a race already listed? Are any already created races not on that list allowed like tieflings? And what about wings and tails? Do we add those ourselves? Are they even allowed? Some servers dont allow those kind of features.

As far as asian characters I guess I just meant if I could play one or at least one with a asian feel to him as far as dress, weapons, behavior ect. Are there any guilds/rogue types who are ninja like in what they do? (IE spying, assassination, things like that?)

[Keflex]

So can I make a race of my own then? Or would it need to be a race already listed? Are any already created races not on that list allowed like tieflings? And what about wings and tails? Do we add those ourselves? Are they even allowed? Some servers dont allow those kind of features.

Races have to be added server-side, and are only added after extensive playtesting and coding. Being that our Team doesn't have nearly the people they need to take care of just the mundane stuff, I'd wager that adding races is probably low on their priority list.

You could create another race on another CoPaP world, and bring it to Avlis, though that is very frowned upon if not done for very good RP reasons, and after a substantial amount of adventuring in the world they were created.

As far as asian characters I guess I just meant if I could play one or at least one with a asian feel to him as far as dress, weapons, behavior ect. Are there any guilds/rogue types who are ninja like in what they do? (IE spying, assassination, things like that?)

The Orders of Valok and Aarilax probably tend to do a lot of spying and assassination. The thieves guilds might be what you're looking for, as well, and if you were looking for a more good-aligned aspect of that (which I doubt, if you're mentioning ninja), you could look at the Hands of Dru'El. Or you could, if they existed. Which they don't. Except for Melakin.

[Vichan Lyonsen]

So can I make a race of my own then? Or would it need to be a race already listed? Are any already created races not on that list allowed like tieflings? And what about wings and tails? Do we add those ourselves? Are they even allowed? Some servers dont allow those kind of features.

As far as asian characters I guess I just meant if I could play one or at least one with a asian feel to him as far as dress, weapons, behavior ect. Are there any guilds/rogue types who are ninja like in what they do? (IE spying, assassination, things like that?)

No.. you MAY NOT create a race of your own. The only races that exist on avlis as PC races are listed either in our custom race thread - linked to above..or are the standard NwN races available in NwN/SoU/HotU.

Other Copap worlds have races such as Aasimar, Tiefling what have you..you must create your PC on those worlds to have access to those races. It is usually considered bad form to make a race on one world with the sole intent of bringing him at 1st level to Avlis...in my mind that is rather demeaning to those worlds which are well made and great places to adventure in.

How you play your character... i.e. "asian feel" would depend, provided you dont create a new subrace of human and RP as a chinese Mchekian you would probably be ok.. there are all the NwN asian style weapons as well as the Cep weapons....

As for guilds...there are several rogue guilds...you would want to investigate them in game for any particular feel or style of play...there are no Ninja on Avlis....

Hope that helps...

[sozin]

I personally can't wait for the day that a little asiatic island (or continent!)pops up somewhere east across from the main Avlis continent, chock full of COPAP ( oriental hak based ) oriental stuff. Samurai! Ninja! Buddha bellies!

[AkumaDaimyo]

So assimar and tiefling are not allowed? Or are they allowed on one of those other servers you guys created?

[Keflex]

So assimar and tiefling are not allowed? Or are they allowed on one of those other servers you guys created?

A little terminology lesson, here:

"Server" is a partitioned place within CoPaP. Different servers can be within the same world. For instance, the world of Avlis is made up of six servers: Wilderness, Le'Or, Mikona, Ferrell, Elysia, and Deglos.

"World" is a different planet and/or plane of existance. Hala is another world, located (I believe) in Ysgard. Tairis'nadur, I think (though I could be completely wrong) is another planet in the same solar system as Avlis.

Different worlds are always on different servers, however different servers aren't necessarily different worlds. You can create races that aren't available in Avlis on other worlds that are linked to Avlis, however doing so exclusively to bring them over to Avlis is considered very poor form.

[Jordicus]

heh.. those races can't be created on Avlis. However if you start your character on another CoPaP world (which btw are not created by us but by other teams) some of them have additional races available. But just a note to clarify, that does not mean go to Hala create a tielfling and then immediately bring him to Avlis. if you are going to create a character on a CoPaP world other than Avlis, then have some respect for the other worlds and play that character on that world. Maybe at some point you could bring him to Avlis if you want, but if you start somewhere else, you area resident of that world, not just a transient.

[AkumaDaimyo]

No I understand now. Yeah he would be on that world until he found a way to get to Avlis. Like how I cant just GO to Japan without a way of getting there. Same deal? I thought Avlis was THE place for the entire conected server deal you guys are doing. So where should I look then for a world where I could be something like a teifling or a ninja (or ninja like pc?) BTW I dont really belive ninja are EVIL but being good alingment yeah thats not doable, but thats not important.

[Jordicus]

if you go to http://www.copap.org there is a list on the left of teh various CoPaP world websites. AFAIK, they all have lists of which races can be created on their respective worlds. that will help you get a feel for each world as wel.

[AkumaDaimyo]

Thanks. Sounds cool. Had some questions about rouges and the whole war thing. Do I really need to give a warcry? That kinda ruins the whole sneak attack, hide in shadows/ambush deal if you give them a "warning" with a warcry. :-p But thanks for the info. I just want to check everything out before I play to make sure Id like the server and not waste yours and my time.

[Vichan Lyonsen]

"Server" is a partitioned place within CoPaP. Different servers can be within the same world. For instance, the world of Avlis is made up of six servers: Wilderness, Le'Or, Mikona, Ferrell, Elysia, and Deglos.

Let me be a bit pedantic..."Server" is equivelant to an instance of NwN server running on a machine. For instance the World of Avlis is made up of six 'instances' of NwN server running on 3 Physical machines IIRC

No I understand now. Yeah he would be on that world until he found a way to get to Avlis. Like how I cant just GO to Japan without a way of getting there. Same deal? I thought Avlis was THE place for the entire conected server deal you guys are doing. So where should I look then for a world where I could be something like a teifling or a ninja (or ninja like pc?) BTW I dont really belive ninja are EVIL but being good alingment yeah thats not doable, but thats not important.

I believe Hala has those races, I do not know for sure about rockhome or Taris n'aidur (sp?) - if you visit the copap website you will find links to all the connected worlds in Copap

[AkumaDaimyo]

Thanks. I've just been trying to find a really interesting server for a while. I do like Tieflings and Rogues a lot and since Tiefling and Rogue go hand in hand...

[mashimaro_]

Well, my character is Setoru Rayne. He's semi Japanese, mostly Chinese. He fights with a longsword and a jian (a CEP longsword). My backstory for him is that he comes from a remote Asian-like town.

So, just like base him on an Asian race....

Whatev, cuz you can just Roleplay however.

EDIT: oh, and Setoru is a human. I see no reason for Asians to be another "race" in NWN terms. the races in NWN are almost species... but they can interbreed... but not really......... Well, there's African looking elves and humans. And there's an Asian human male face and an Asian elf female face (portrait). So in NWN terms, Black, White or Asian doesnt seem to mean too much, conidering the huge diff b/w like the elf and human races.

[AkumaDaimyo]

Alright but I did always like the idea of a more asian style tiefling. Maybe Im just a geek but a tiefling ninja just sounds like a very interesting and even appropiate character given the skills, ability adjustments and temperment of tieflings. I was wondering if anyone had made a half-mask/scarf look yet? Like Rikimaru in Tenchu?

[Midknight]

I was wondering if anyone had made a half-mask/scarf look yet? Like Rikimaru in Tenchu?

Impossible to do with NWN's current method of modeling heads. It's hardcoded into the engine, and impossible to change.

If you're looking to make a tiefling, try Hala, or Abyss404. They might be more up your alley.

[AkumaDaimyo]

Alright I will. Sounds good. I thought that it could be possible to do half mask as a clothing or helmet? I've seen hoods and capes in the CEP pack and I've seen peopel make them in other mods.

[KaiRal Windspar]

Alright I will. Sounds good. I thought that it could be possible to do half mask as a clothing or helmet? I've seen hoods and capes in the CEP pack and I've seen peopel make them in other mods.

Some of the pre-rendered heads have the mask, hood or mask and hood, but once you plunk a helmet on that noggin, you look like everyone else.

There is no helmet that will look like this when you put it on, and allow you to remove it tho 'show your face', no.

[AkumaDaimyo]

Thanks for your help and all. I guess I will fill out an application and see where it goes from there.

[choraldances]

Well, my character is Setoru Rayne. He's semi Japanese, mostly Chinese. He fights with a longsword and a jian (a CEP longsword). My backstory for him is that he comes from a remote Asian-like town.

So, just like base him on an Asian race....

Whatev, cuz you can just Roleplay however.

EDIT: oh, and Setoru is a human. I see no reason for Asians to be another "race" in NWN terms. the races in NWN are almost species... but they can interbreed... but not really......... Well, there's African looking elves and humans. And there's an Asian human male face and an Asian elf female face (portrait). So in NWN terms, Black, White or Asian doesnt seem to mean too much, conidering the huge diff b/w like the elf and human races.

The point is that there are no Japan, nor China in Avlis. If you say, I'm from an Asian town, the response suppose to be, what's Asian? There are no "Asia" either.

Skin Color is a totally different issue. You can be a Dark colored Human, pale color, whatever.

[AkumaDaimyo]

He couldnt be asian but he could still have a asian view on things such as morality and codes of behavior though couldnt he?

[Fuzz]

All I know is the last person to try RPing an Asian-style char did a really pathetic, anime-inspired attempt and played a monk that claimed he came from "the land of the Rising Sun", which is utterly ridiculous in Avlis. The worse part was he RPed the "Engrish" accent, which many of the asian PLAYERS found to be really obnoxious.

Don't do that.

My advice would be to ask the team (in the Ask the Team forum or in an email to staff@avlis.org) to get permission to possibly play a character from Khanjar Kuro. I spoke to Orl long ago on the subject, and while Khanjar is REALLY remote compared to the mainland of Avlis, there ARE random trading vessels from teh Seven Cities that go there, so there's a slight chance your char could come from there, I'd think. (Khanjar Kuro lies several thousand miles to the SE of the mainland of Avlis)

Just don't try to rehash some anime character in Avlis as your own wannabe spinoff... the goal is to try to make an original character, not rehash existing stuff. (See Also: Drow trying to play CG Rangers that dual-weild scimitars)

Hope that helps.

[AkumaDaimyo]

I had no intent on playing such a stupid character idea. Yeah him doing the accent was stupid as well. I dont talk with a accent when I speak I just have to keep typing that my voice is "heavily accented" but I dont attempt to type the accent into what Im saying.

I wouldnt really need a Japanese culture to play someone with beliefs similar to Japan or China though. But I couldnt say I was asian if such a culture did not exist.

On another note I like drow alright and even good drow but I wish people would create a more original concept for a good drow than a exact copy of Drizzt. Its very possible to play a good alinged drow who is NOT Drizzt Do Urden. Hasnt ANYONE read the other drow books? I mean Daughter of the Drow? What aobut the drow from the Seven Sisters? Zaknafien? Ugh. People like that annoy me.