From AtT: Duel weilding rapiers

[DoomsDay1000]

I think i am bugged but not sure... My character Osric Kratos( gamespy ID is DoomsDay1000) duel weilds rapiers and is a ranger that wears robes and rangers get a feat called duel wield (when wearing light armor i get all benefits of Ambidexterity and Two-Weapon Fighting)
and i should get a -4/-4 penatly to AB if the weapon is not a light weapon. If its a light weapon then i should get a -2/-2 penatly. When i have Osric duel wield rapiers ( i think they are light weapons) he gets a -4/-4 penatly instead of a -2/-2. I think hes bugged or the rapiers are not light weapons i am not sure but i remember getting a -2/-2 when i first started playing him and now i am getting a -4/-4. Can someone get back to me on this. thanks

[Faeldridge]

Rapiers are too big for the off-hand. Go down a weapon size, and it will work. The word "light" for the off hand is misleading... I fell for that too once. It really has to do with the weapons size. Try a short sword, dagger, kukuri etc.

[rshampshire]

Fael's got it spot on,


Rapier

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Weight (lb)   3  
Cost (gp)      20  
Damage        1d6  
Critical         18-20/x2  
Damage type   Piercing  
Size           Medium 
Proficiency     
 Elf
 Martial
 Rogue  

[Gairus]

rapiers are light for the purposes of weapon finesse, if not offhandedness.

[robocod]

Heh heh! I originally PM'd this because it was Ask The Team.... but hey, now I can post (although its already all been said, so I'm just showing off now).

Subject: Duel weilding rapiers

I think i am bugged but not sure... My character Osric Kratos( gamespy ID is DoomsDay1000) duel weilds rapiers and is a ranger that wears robes and rangers get a feat called duel wield (when wearing light armor i get all benefits of Ambidexterity and Two-Weapon Fighting)
and i should get a -4/-4 penatly to AB if the weapon is not a light weapon. If its a light weapon then i should get a -2/-2 penatly. When i have Osric duel wield rapiers ( i think they are light weapons) he gets a -4/-4 penatly instead of a -2/-2. I think hes bugged or the rapiers are not light weapons i am not sure but i remember getting a -2/-2 when i first started playing him and now i am getting a -4/-4. Can someone get back to me on this. thanks

Couldn't answer because you posted in "Ask The Team".

Fistly, the terminology is small/medium/large. Rapiers are medium weapons same as a long-sword. Assuming you are medium-sized (e.g. human, elf, dwarf) then the -4/-4 penalty is correct. You'd have to use short-swords or smaller to get the -2/-2.

The only difference with rapiers is that they are finessable, meaning that if you have the Finesse feat then you use DEX bonus for AB. I think rapiers are the only finessable medium weapon, that is why they are special.

[DoomsDay1000]

ok thanks... was just trying to clear up something when i remembered back in the day i got a -2 and not a -4 unless my memory is wrong.. owell thanks guys

[Lilith]

My Main uses dual weilded Rapiers always has done. I guess I liked the novelty factor, even though you get penalised for it!
Don't let the numbers put you off if its what you like doing! Style comes before Stats

[spool32]

My Main uses dual weilded Rapiers always has done. I guess I liked the novelty factor, even though you get penalised for it!
Don't let the numbers put you off if its what you like doing! Style comes before Stats

QFT

[lanrik]

Dual rapiers with great cleave or whirlwind attack is a blast. Just looks good.

[loki70]

Dual rapiers with great cleave or whirlwind attack is a blast. Just looks good.

Dev crit, it's all about the dev crit...oh, and keen, and WM with seven levels. And then have the DM spawn a ton of undead on you good times