CEP weapons

nonscience · Post by **nonscience** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 11:40 am

Hello,

New in there, i wonder if there is any CEP weapon like the chakram who are sold or usable on Avlis?

As i'm playing a monk, some oriental stylish weapons would be fun. But Leo'r doesn't seem to have even a single one, except for standard kukri.

If we can use those weapons, where can we buy it? is it a privilege granted to those that can craft them? or is it just that they simply doesn't exist?

Jordicus · Post by **Jordicus** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 11:50 am

some of them can be found for sale already on diferent servers..

nonscience · Post by **nonscience** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 12:35 pm

Thanks for answer,

If they are only found on other servers, i think i will lose much fun not being able to use them. But whatever, i take it as a if those weapons are only used in some areas, i mean some kind of "typical for these region"...Sad for me, but life is unfair

frogmella · Post by **frogmella** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 12:51 pm

I found a shop that stocks a good number of exotic throwing weapons ... including the Wind Fire Wheel and nunchakus etc. They look pretty good too ... but you need to put the effort into finding them. If you see me, do ask.
Sunny.

CPU · Post by **CPU** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 3:14 pm

nonscience wrote:Thanks for answer,

If they are only found on other servers, i think i will lose much fun not being able to use them. But whatever, i take it as a if those weapons are only used in some areas, i mean some kind of "typical for these region"...Sad for me, but life is unfair

No, no, no... I think you misuderstood. When Jordicus said that, "some of them can be found for sale already on diferent servers.." He meant the different AVLIS servers.

Avlis is running on 6 different server machines. The new CEP weapons are available RIGHT NOW on some of these servers. All the Avlis servers are linked so you can travel about all six of them and take those weapons with you where ever you go.

You'll just have to find which towns, cities, or nations has these weapons and what merchant there sells them. So go buy a cool weapon!

Good Luck!

nonscience · Post by **nonscience** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 3:23 pm

I didn't misunderstood, i just explain myself incorrectly,

I am playing only on Leo'r in so far. I was only saying that, i didn't find any of them in this city. So i'm going to play it as if, Leo'r city is not producing these kind of weaponry. That seemed pretty obvious in elf culture to focus on bow and swords manking.

My only frustration is that, to play my monk with a special race, i had to create it in Leo'r and as so, must wait a very long time to survive the trip to a city with those arms. Certainly my character will not even bother to take them at that time, because i would have spent my feats in others areas or others weapons in order to be able to do the journey.

Perhaps crafting would help...

Tharliss · Post by **Tharliss** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 3:31 pm

nonscience wrote:My only frustration is that, to play my monk with a special race, i had to create it in Leo'r and as so, must wait a very long time to survive the trip to a city with those arms.

A great opportunity to RP is to ask other PC's in LeOr if they know the way to another city, perhaps Elysia. Most folks would be willing to escort lower-level characters if they have the time.

Malathyre · Post by **Malathyre** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 3:33 pm

nonscience wrote:I didn't misunderstood, i just explain myself incorrectly,

I am playing only on Leo'r in so far. I was only saying that, i didn't find any of them in this city. So i'm going to play it as if, Leo'r city is not producing these kind of weaponry. That seemed pretty obvious in elf culture to focus on bow and swords manking.

My only frustration is that, to play my monk with a special race, i had to create it in Leo'r and as so, must wait a very long time to survive the trip to a city with those arms. Certainly my character will not even bother to take them at that time, because i would have spent my feats in others areas or others weapons in order to be able to do the journey.

Perhaps crafting would help...

A few comments here. First, you can server hop onto any of the Avlis servers after waiting an hour after your last login on a server. So, for example, say you logged into Le'Or one night, but wanted to try out Mikona the next day. No problem, you can do that. If server hopping doesn't sit well with you, find a group of folks or a more experienced character to take you to another server. Most folks around here would be more than willing to at the very least point you in the right direction if they can, even those characters that aren't so friendly usually find some fiendishly clever way to rp things like this out and get you to where you want to go, with a price...

Secondly, with the CEP weapons, you cannot take feats such as weapon focus or improved critical with any of those weapons (to my knowledge, if this has changed, someone will correct me).

nonscience · Post by **nonscience** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 3:48 pm

Thanks all,

As i'm really found of roleplaying, i should use every "trick" to get one, except server hoping. It feels like cheating to me. I don't see any reason why i'll be suddendly appearing into any city without having to travel by myself, not to mention the fact that i'll loose the fun to discover the wilderness.

I'll have to get along with it and stick to my character.

Thanks to precise that we cannot take feats for those weapons, i've read something about this fact in the CEP description, but wasn't sure.

Tharliss · Post by **Tharliss** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 3:49 pm

Malathyre wrote: Secondly, with the CEP weapons, you cannot take feats such as weapon focus or improved critical with any of those weapons (to my knowledge, if this has changed, someone will correct me).

Some of the new CEP weapons are actually just variations of some base items. For example, the wakisashi is just a different model for the shortsword and, unless I'm mistaken, any shortsword feats would work for that weapon.

You are correct that any "new" base weapon, such as the Heavy Pick, will not work with Feats. The way you can check is under the item description. For the Heavy Pick, the base weapon is listed as "Heavy Pick*".

If there is an asterisk after the weapon name, then it's a new CEP weapon that doesn't work with feats.

Aloro · Post by **Aloro** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 4:18 pm

nonscience wrote:I am playing only on Leo'r in so far. I was only saying that, i didn't find any of them in this city.

OK, fine. I'll add some to Le'Or.

- Aloro

Emprod · Post by **Emprod** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 5:12 pm

There's a LeOr merchant dedicated to exotic weapons. Wether he makes them himself or imports, I don't know.

While you're in there Aloro, you might look at a doublesword that has a bonus vs. evil, and hence a probably unintended glowstick effect.

Vanor · Post by **Vanor** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 5:13 pm

Emprod wrote:There's a LeOr merchant dedicated to exotic weapons.

That would most likley be a good one to get a lot of the CEP weapons IMO.

Vanor · Post by **Vanor** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 5:23 pm

Oh a warning...

Most of these "monk" weapons, like Sai, Nuchucku, tonfa, ect... Are exotic weapons. That means a monk can't use them without taking the exotic weapon feat. No one can wield them in both hands without either the two weapon/ambi feats, or a major penlity.

nonscience · Post by **nonscience** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 5:38 pm

About the penalties, i was thinking so.

If some will now be on the open market in Leo'r, i'll be glad to take a feat for them. I don't care about powergaming my character.
He's nice and appealing, and with an extra personalization with those exotic weapons, hey it rocks!

Vanor · Post by **Vanor** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 5:48 pm

nonscience wrote:He's nice and appealing, and with an extra personalization with those exotic weapons, hey it rocks!

I agree

Just wanted to let everyone know before hand.

Draegloth · Post by **Draegloth** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:43 am

Are all the cep weapons unable to be enchanted by greater magic weapon/flame weapon spells?

Post by **tindertwiggy** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:01 am

Forum search: search.php

Also accessible from the Search link nestled between Servers and Bug Tracker on all forum page headers.

A search with the qualifiers "CEP AND weapons" yields such results as these:
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Jay_Ahr · Post by **Jay_Ahr** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 12:26 pm

Just a quick comment on the topic of moving from server to server... I've only been playing on Avlis for around 2 weeks, my character is still low level, but I've visited all the Avlis servers plus Rockhome, except Mikona, without server hopping. As mentioned above, I just found people headed somewhere and they let me tag along. In the case of Deglos and Rockhome, it was a fairly capable group, so they sure didn't need me, but they let me come along to learn the way. I've met a lot of characters trying to find help getting back to safe areas, too.

CPU · Post by **CPU** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:44 pm

nonscience wrote:Hello,

New in there, i wonder if there is any CEP weapon like the chakram who are sold or usable on Avlis?

I've seen this weapon for sale on Rockhome.

Nzifklm · Post by **Nzifklm** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:45 pm

Are all of the CEP weapons available on Avlis servers or just a select few that fit in with the history/etc. I love the look of the new weapons and have found some of them for sale (just not the ones I want, of course) I have yet to see the Maul or uhh butterfly swords (forget what CEP calls them)

Vanor · Post by **Vanor** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:02 pm

Nzifklm wrote:Are all of the CEP weapons available on Avlis servers or just a select few that fit in with the history/etc.

They're all in the pallete as Avlisized versions. I can't comment on which ones are for sale, but I think most if not all of them are sold at various places.

Enverex · Post by **Enverex** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:18 pm

nonscience wrote:I didn't misunderstood, i just explain myself incorrectly,

I am playing only on Leo'r in so far. I was only saying that, i didn't find any of them in this city. So i'm going to play it as if, Leo'r city is not producing these kind of weaponry. That seemed pretty obvious in elf culture to focus on bow and swords manking.

My only frustration is that, to play my monk with a special race, i had to create it in Leo'r and as so, must wait a very long time to survive the trip to a city with those arms. Certainly my character will not even bother to take them at that time, because i would have spent my feats in others areas or others weapons in order to be able to do the journey.

Perhaps crafting would help...

LeOr to Elysia is safe if you know the route. From Elysia you can get safely to Ferrell and Mikona.

Bigdaddy037 · Post by **Bigdaddy037** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:37 pm

There is a monk that sells items in the canopies - not sure if they are carrying the ones you are mentioning, but if not, would be a great one to carry some of them.

As far as rping the move between servers: I can understand the "server hopping" - I try not to do that myself, though if there has been a good amount of time since I last played, I will visualize that I took a boat or helped guard a caravan to that place. I have not server hopped to Deglos, since Shanner has not been there before. In the end, its how you play that.

BUT
I think it doesn't make sence not to go to Elysia from Le'or just because it is on another server (or ferrell for that matter). Both are right next to Leor - no physical barrier stoping your character from going there, just your player (OOC) knowledge that there is another server you are going too.

Just something to think about (I wresteled with the same ideas/thoughts as you are going through at first too).

Sindol · Post by **Sindol** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:50 pm

Bigdaddy037 wrote: BUT
I think it doesn't make sence not to go to Elysia from Le'or just because it is on another server (or ferrell for that matter). Both are right next to Leor - no physical barrier stoping your character from going there, just your player (OOC) knowledge that there is another server you are going too.

Sounds about right, except for some minor technicalities that are only interesting to those with extreme eye for details:
The city of Le'Or T'Nanshi is not "right next" to Elysia, neither in game or on the map. There's no transitions that lead directly from Elysia to Le'Or and if you study the world map you'll see that it's in fact several hundred miles from Elysia to Le'Or. To get from one to the other you'll have to traverse those miles through the forest, either on the floor, or over the tree-bridges that connect the various small villages in the canopies to Le'Or itself.
The country of Ferrell does more or less connect directly to Elysia, there only a not too large lake seperating the two; lake Eridanus. However Ferrell is geographically even further from Le'Or than Elysia, to wit on the far side of the aformentioned lake. Therefore most comments that applied to the Elysia-Le'Or connection will apply to the Ferrell-Le'Or connection as well.

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