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RDD question

Post by Viper Pilot » Fri Dec 26, 2003 5:00 am

Hello all, first post on the Avlis boards.

I recently bought NWN and am anxiously awaiting my exp packs so I can begin playing PW servers and like the looks of this one.

My question regards the RDD PrC. On the Bioware forums, I've read a lot of talk about bugs of RDDs logging into servers after they make class level 10 -- the server rejects the character as an illegal player (probably because of stats...). Anyway, will this be a problem on a server stored character like I'd have here or do the world designers have a workaround for this?

As a side note, nice looking web site as well as good content. I didn't realize the reading committment I would be making in choosing a PW to make home for my wife and I :).
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Post by tindertwiggy » Fri Dec 26, 2003 5:02 am

We have a lovely search function on the boards that will answer most questions.

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Try that and type in red dragon disciple, or prestige class, or rdd and see what you find.
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Post by Viper Pilot » Fri Dec 26, 2003 5:38 am

With all due respect, red dragon disciple gave me over 600 hits, I could read messages til next week and not find the answer to my question.

Just because you might have read the question 69 times since you help run the place doesn't mean a newcomer has.

While I appreciate the academics on the use of the search function, a simple "yes, this has been thought of and is not a problem" or "no, we aren't even implementing the RDD since there are no red dragons on Avlis dumbass" would suffice.

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Post by Morbid Ridicule » Fri Dec 26, 2003 5:43 am

Your second guess is closer.
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Post by Vergilius » Fri Dec 26, 2003 5:49 am

Viper Pilot wrote: While I appreciate the academics on the use of the search function, a simple "yes, this has been thought of and is not a problem" or "no, we aren't even implementing the RDD since there are no red dragons on Avlis dumbass" would suffice.
You'll have to pardon us at times. A word on the search button, if you type in 3 words and get some 600+ hits, you should go back and click the other oval so that you collocate all 3 words together. What your search pulled up was every thread that used the word "Red", every thread that used the word "dragon" and every thread that used the "word" disciple.

and well, to help you out a little. The team is discussing PrC right now but because there are no Red dragons, the PrC will be disallowed on avlis.

In regards to any bug on 10th level RDDs, I hadn't heard anything yet and this is probably not the most pressing concern to the team. In order to play a RDD on avlis, someone would have to start a character on another COPAP world that does allow the class and take their level there, then they'd need some IC reason to move permanently to avlis.

Hope this helps.
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Post by 4x4_Ender » Fri Dec 26, 2003 5:54 am

RDD is not being implimented into Avlis because there are currently no Red dragons in the world. The dragons that do exist in this world are mostly of the metallic/mineral tyep, such as coal, amber, etc. Therefore, there is no specific IC reason for this PrC to exist.

Currently, all PrC are disabled from letting the player simply lvl up in the classes themselves. Instead, you have to earn the class through a quest and of course meeting the requirements. There are only two that have been finished at this time: Shadowdancer and Arcane Archer.

However, many more are coming, including 8 custom PrC's that are meant to be holy warriors of each of the 9 major gods, blackguard being the holy warrior for Maleki.
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Post by 4x4_Ender » Fri Dec 26, 2003 5:55 am

The statements have not been made definite and you'll just have to wait for official word concerning them.
Alex's post in the link above was pretty definate that both RDD and Champion of Torm are not being implimented.
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Post by Sarmanos » Fri Dec 26, 2003 5:58 am

Just to add though will likely still be seen in Avlis someday if the person gets the levels in either of those classes in another linked PW.
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Post by Vergilius » Fri Dec 26, 2003 6:01 am

4x4_Ender wrote:
The statements have not been made definite and you'll just have to wait for official word concerning them.
Alex's post in the link above was pretty definate that both RDD and Champion of Torm are not being implimented.
My statement was accurate as of time of posting. Following the post, I noticed Reinstag's link which had not been posted up when I worte my response and have since edited out a good chunk of it to bring it into conformity with the latest information. Thanks for pointing this out, but I had actually edited my post before you posted this up.
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Post by 4x4_Ender » Fri Dec 26, 2003 6:02 am

LOL, ok sorry Verg 8)
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Post by Fuzz » Fri Dec 26, 2003 6:31 am

Yeah, don't be dissing Verg.

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Post by enzime » Fri Dec 26, 2003 6:41 am

4x4_Ender wrote:RDD is not being implimented into Avlis because there are currently no Red dragons in the world. The dragons that do exist in this world are mostly of the metallic/mineral tyep, such as coal, amber, etc. Therefore, there is no specific IC reason for this PrC to exist.
Sure there is! I can see it now, Coal Dragon Disciple... 8)
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Post by Viper Pilot » Fri Dec 26, 2003 6:47 am

enzime wrote:
4x4_Ender wrote:RDD is not being implimented into Avlis because there are currently no Red dragons in the world. The dragons that do exist in this world are mostly of the metallic/mineral tyep, such as coal, amber, etc. Therefore, there is no specific IC reason for this PrC to exist.
Sure there is! I can see it now, Coal Dragon Disciple... 8)
Heheheh. Thanks for the replies. I suppose the Coal Dragon Disciple could crap diamonds as a special ability. :P
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Post by 4x4_Ender » Fri Dec 26, 2003 7:15 am

Viper Pilot wrote:
enzime wrote:
4x4_Ender wrote:RDD is not being implimented into Avlis because there are currently no Red dragons in the world. The dragons that do exist in this world are mostly of the metallic/mineral tyep, such as coal, amber, etc. Therefore, there is no specific IC reason for this PrC to exist.
Sure there is! I can see it now, Coal Dragon Disciple... 8)
Heheheh. Thanks for the replies. I suppose the Coal Dragon Disciple could crap diamonds as a special ability. :P
ROFL!! :lol:

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Post by Vergilius » Fri Dec 26, 2003 2:23 pm

4x4_Ender wrote:LOL, ok sorry Verg 8)
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Post by ashzz » Fri Dec 26, 2003 5:32 pm

umm..Amonien can summon a pet red dragon.

and the shifters can shift to a red dragon.

this is gnna get ugly yet!

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Post by Manuel the White » Fri Dec 26, 2003 6:04 pm

Viper Pilot wrote: I suppose the Coal Dragon Disciple could crap diamonds as a special ability. :P
Uh oh, we may have to adjust the economy to account for this. :wink:
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Post by Orleron » Fri Dec 26, 2003 8:00 pm

Shifters will be "fixed" before implementation, i.e. no drow, no red dragon.

Like they said above, to play a RDD on Avlis, you would need to start out on another world like Rockhome or Hala, and then portal over to Avlis in the course of your character development. Once you have levels in RDD, you can advance in them on Avlis. You just can't START the RDD on Avlis, i.e. take lvl 1 in it here. Level 2 and so on is fine however.

Same thing with Champion of Torm and Harper Scout.
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Post by Titanium Dragon » Fri Dec 26, 2003 8:12 pm

However, the world you start out on would have to have red dragons too... I'm not sure if Hala does, though I'll bet Rockhome does. Also, Champions of Torm and Harper Scouts could only be created on worlds with those... and I'm not sure if any world we are connected to right now has either. I don't really know.
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Post by Sunscream » Fri Dec 26, 2003 9:53 pm

Orleron wrote:Shifters will be "fixed" before implementation, i.e. no drow, no red dragon.
A reminder to fix the Mage and Druid shapechange spell aswell.
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Post by Morbid Ridicule » Fri Dec 26, 2003 11:11 pm

Titanium Dragon wrote:However, the world you start out on would have to have red dragons too... I'm not sure if Hala does, though I'll bet Rockhome does. Also, Champions of Torm and Harper Scouts could only be created on worlds with those... and I'm not sure if any world we are connected to right now has either. I don't really know.
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Post by diddeecoy » Sat Dec 27, 2003 2:03 am

4x4_Ender wrote:....because there are currently no Red dragons in the world. The dragons that do exist in this world are mostly of the metallic/mineral tyep, such as coal, amber, etc. .
...sorry, but this has to be wrong...I have an elf character that met a red dragon at the foot of Le'Or. Metallic types were the first on Avlis thats right, the Platinum being the first ... when these joined in with the alliance against the orcs in the Great War, Mikon saw that the orcs were doomed, so he decided 'in the name of balance' to make opposing dragons, and these were made with minerals ... think thats how it goes..

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