How is that Ferrell and Elysia are landlocked yet have ports

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How is that Ferrell and Elysia are landlocked yet have ports

Post by Fifty » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:42 pm

Are the ports on REALLY long, wide rivers or something?

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Post by Reinstag » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:46 pm

There is a huge river that flows along the border between T'Nanshi and Drotid. This river leads to a lake that Elysia sits next to. If I remember right, that river continues into Ferrell.
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Post by Cemm » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:46 pm

Port Eridanus in Ferrell sits on Lake Eridanus. A river runs from the lake to that long bay beside M'Chek I think. Does Elysia sit on the other side of the lake from Port Eridanus or down that river a bit? Am I close on any of this or completely wrong? Heh.

Edit: Ahhh...it looks like Port Eridanus of Ferrell sits across the lake from Elysia then. Must be a big lake!
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Post by Vanor » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:54 pm

Cemm wrote:Must be a big lake!
IIRC it's a good bit larger then the great lakes. Think of it as a inland freshwater sea.
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Post by Furin » Tue Oct 21, 2003 8:33 pm

Only vaguely related and not at all relevant, but mildly interesting:

as Strangg mentioned in a post to Demilich (remember that guy?), the farthest inland port in the U.S. is the Port of Catoosa, just outside Tulsa, Oklahoma.

For all you non-Yanks out there, Oklahoma is pretty damned near the geographic center of the "lower 48"; i.e., if you take the picture you have in your mind of the U.S. on a map (disregarding Alaska and Hawaii), and stick a pin right in what you think would be the middle of the map, that's Kansas. Oklahoma is just under Kansas.

THE POINT: it's possible to have ports WAY the fv[k inland, on rivers that aren't even all that huge.
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Post by Actually » Tue Oct 21, 2003 8:53 pm

Furin wrote: i.e., if you take the picture you have in your mind of the U.S. on a map and stick a pin right in what you think would be the middle of the map, that's the sucking pit of human lack and emotional desperation that is Kansas. Oklahoma is just under the single worst place anyone could possibly think to live.
Cleaned up your post a little there, Furin, in the interests of accuracy.

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Post by Vergilius » Tue Oct 21, 2003 9:00 pm

Actually wrote:
Furin wrote: i.e., if you take the picture you have in your mind of the U.S. on a map and stick a pin right in what you think would be the middle of the map, that's the sucking pit of human lack and emotional desperation that is Kansas. Oklahoma is just under the single worst place anyone could possibly think to live.
Cleaned up your post a little there, Furin, in the interests of accuracy.

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Post by Brick » Tue Oct 21, 2003 9:00 pm

Speaking of ports, why is it that M'Chek is connected to Port Ni'Reth and Elysia when there isn't a boat that goes between Ni'Reth and Elysia? *scratches head*
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Post by Vanor » Tue Oct 21, 2003 9:05 pm

Brick wrote:Speaking of ports, why is it that M'Chek is connected to Port Ni'Reth and Elysia when there isn't a boat that goes between Ni'Reth and Elysia? *scratches head*
Ok if your talking about where I think your talking about.

Ni'Reth is on the east side of the content, Elysia is on the west, and Mikona is at the southern tip of the content. That means depending on which direction the boat faces when it leaves, it could get to either one. But there is no way to get a boat from Ni'Reth to Elysia, with out sailing around Mikona.

Sorta like North and South America, before the Panama canale... If you know what I mean.
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Post by Brick » Tue Oct 21, 2003 9:14 pm

Yes, but it seems perfectly logical that a boat would go straight from T'Nanshi to Elysia. Actually, I honestly can't see why a boat would go to Mikona- the two countries are at war; there's no way they're trading. Plus, it's damn inconvenient to have to stop in Mikona if you want to go to Elysia from Ni'Reth... those damn guards have uber spot checks.
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Post by Vanor » Tue Oct 21, 2003 9:28 pm

Brick wrote:Plus, it's damn inconvenient to have to stop in Mikona if you want to go to Elysia from Ni'Reth...
I'd think it would be quicker to walk then take the boat... But maybe that's just me.

There is as far as I know, no river that runs from Eastern T'Nanshi to Elysia, at least not one big enough for a ship to fit on.
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Post by Fifty » Tue Oct 21, 2003 9:31 pm

Vanor wrote:
Brick wrote:Plus, it's damn inconvenient to have to stop in Mikona if you want to go to Elysia from Ni'Reth...
I'd think it would be quicker to walk then take the boat... But maybe that's just me.
In real life it was often quicker to take a long boat ride than a short walk, but of course that didn't hold quite so true for individuals.
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