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Whats the max strength you can have?
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:31 am
by downsystem
I was curious what the max strength anyone can have in nwn. I the book it only shows up to +30. Is this the max you can take it? Is it possible to make it higher with spells or potions?
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:35 am
by Psyco
Max str is 12 above your base str. So 30 is the max for someone with 18 base str.
As for actual max, the absolute max is 255, after that bad things happen, very very bad things. But no PC will ever get anywhere near that.
ok so
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:38 am
by downsystem
i had a 15 base so i can get up to 27. Does that mean that if you use a potion of bulls strength it wont raise it to thirty or will it still?
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:55 am
by Psyco
If you have 15 str with no item, spells ar anything else boosting it, the most you can ever have is 27.
If you want to go higher than 27 you need to use the bonus stat points you get when you level up to increase your base str.
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:00 pm
by A Wanderer
If you mean to take a feat requiring 30+ str, you have to have the base str of 30+ not including items or spells.
Not sure if that's your ultimate question.
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:17 pm
by Significant Owl
The max for a character on Avlis would be if you were a Half-Orc starting out with maxed strength ( 20 Str ). You use all your stat increases and take all the Great Strength feats, and you'll have a base strength of 40, which can then be increased via items to the maximum possible on Avlis, 52.
Edit: *Shakes fist at forgetting wemics* So really.. The max strength is 57, sorry.
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:20 pm
by Sathsarrion
Psyco wrote:If you have 15 str with no item, spells ar anything else boosting it, the most you can ever have is 27.
If you want to go higher than 27 you need to use the bonus stat points you get when you level up to increase your base str.
one exception here is that polymorph abilities will alter your base STR
The absolute max STR, for a lvl 40 wemic, fully buffed is 56. A druid/shifter with dragon shape might be able to get slightly better, its been so long since Ive done that, I dont remember.
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:21 pm
by Talwin Hawkins
beat that dev crit save

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:42 pm
by krackq
Talwin Hawkins wrote:beat that dev crit save

That would be like a 53 fort save or something... not impossible but difficult.. wow
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:47 pm
by Sathsarrion
Signifigant Owl wrote:Edit: *Shakes fist at forgetting wemics* So really.. The max strength is 57, sorry.
56. A wemics ECL means the miss out on the stat bonus at lvl 4. you forgot full blooded orcs too, they max out at 53, and a few others, gnolls, half ogres.....
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:51 pm
by Significant Owl
I'm sorry, great master.

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:58 pm
by Sathsarrion
simplified version: without polymorphing, the absolute max for any stat is 50 plus or minus racial mods, minus 1 if its a race with ECL 3
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:05 pm
by drunkenpig
Sathsarrion wrote:Signifigant Owl wrote:Edit: *Shakes fist at forgetting wemics* So really.. The max strength is 57, sorry.
56. A wemics ECL means the miss out on the stat bonus at lvl 4. you forgot full blooded orcs too, they max out at 53, and a few others, gnolls, half ogres.....
what I'd like to know is how much you could carry with a STR of 56 and what the bonus would be
I can get my wemic up to 37 STR which allows me to carry 3173 pounds, not sure what the bonus is at that point.
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:13 pm
by Sathsarrion
the bonus would be 23, no idea what the carry limit would be
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:45 pm
by Zebranky
drunkenpig wrote:what I'd like to know is how much you could carry with a STR of 56 and what the bonus would be

Based on a test I just did, 22773 lbs.

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:48 pm
by Alphonse
*grins evilly*
its not the max for NPCs
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:03 pm
by Krishna
Alphonse wrote:*grins evilly*
its not the max for NPCs
Well heck lets take a full-blooded ogre from PnP into epic eh? They get +12 strength if I remember right, now lets max the strength out 18+12=30 now lets take all forty levels make them lets say fighter 30+10= 40 now lets add in feats (correct me if I am wrong but a fighter gets 21 feats total in epic)
So: 18(base)+12(race)=30+10(statistic modfiers via level)+21(epic strength)=61 strength total
Yeah, that pretty freaking strong. But we could use an ancient dragon or any number of things getting pretty ridiculous heh..
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:08 pm
by Dralix
Talwin Hawkins wrote:beat that dev crit save

Give me three more levels ... which should take about three years.

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:40 pm
by Levis Pie
drunkenpig wrote:Sathsarrion wrote:Signifigant Owl wrote:Edit: *Shakes fist at forgetting wemics* So really.. The max strength is 57, sorry.
56. A wemics ECL means the miss out on the stat bonus at lvl 4. you forgot full blooded orcs too, they max out at 53, and a few others, gnolls, half ogres.....
what I'd like to know is how much you could carry with a STR of 56 and what the bonus would be
I can get my wemic up to 37 STR which allows me to carry 3173 pounds, not sure what the bonus is at that point.
I saw a lvl 40 Half-Orc Barb on a different server, and he could carry almost 7500 lbs. Not sure about the bonus though.
....actually I don't even remember what his strenght was...

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:52 pm
by Marleh
Levis Pie wrote:
I saw a lvl 40 Half-Orc Barb on a different server, and he could carry almost 7500 lbs. Not sure about the bonus though.
....actually I don't even remember what his strenght was...

Was he carrying 8000 lbs of vervaine, calendula, marrowroot, glowmoss distillate and mithral, still move faster than most monks, and go by the name of Ed?
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:31 pm
by Zonr_0
somebody in a one shot 20th level pnp game we did played a Troll War hulk and had a strength of 55 with a vorpal hastened super keen sword. His light load was something in the thousands, and his push/drag we calculated to be something like 56 tons.
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:11 pm
by apandapion
NWN dragon shape feat gets a 48 str, so if you buff that by 12 points you hit 60. Not sure if the Str is the same in Avlis.
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:41 pm
by Rain&Clouds
What does that kind of strenght mean IC? You can crush a continent like a soda can?

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:59 pm
by mortzestus
Krishna wrote:So: 18(base)+12(race)=30+10(statistic modfiers via level)+21(epic strength)=61 strength total
However, Great STR is not available as an epic bonus feat for any class so it can't be taken more than seven times.
so if im getting you all right
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:57 pm
by downsystem
cause i didnt know this rule of base strength +12 means that cause i origionally put 15 in my strength ability that i can only go up to 27 and all your crazy max strength ideas wont get me to thirty like i was thinking. so now im going to have to go to plan be on my character. Thanks for all your help.