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Noooooo! My CD won't work.

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:55 pm
by Trigger
Apologies if this is in the wrong place.

I just tried to log into Elysia, I put my CD in the drawer and it came up with the "lease insert play disc" Screen, i took the cd out and cleaned it but it won't work at all, the disc is a little scratched but not that badly...

Any Ideas??

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:59 pm
by Significant Owl
Use a no-cd patch.

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:02 am
by PsiOmega
Just make a backup of the original nwnmain.exe file or else you'll have a problem when you have to patch.

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:12 am
by Serineth Swiftpaw
Download and install Alcohol 120%, make an image of the disc and mount it on one of the virtual drives in the program.

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:34 am
by Sarmanos
If the CD doesn't work it'll be kinda hard to make an image of it.

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:39 am
by Snow
Check http://www.gamecopyworld.com and look for the No-CD patch there.

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:45 am
by Significant Owl
Already pm'ed the poor bastard and helped a bit to make it work, move along. :P

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:57 am
by methuselah
Serineth Swiftpaw wrote:Download and install Alcohol 120%, make an image of the disc and mount it on one of the virtual drives in the program.
Dude Alcohol 120% is awesome. I've been using mine forever. I never have to worry about my disks being scratched.

You can even install stuff without the disks with just the image files!

Alcohol 120% w00t

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:24 pm
by NecroZombie
Happened to the wife as well. Turned out it happened when we uninstalled Norton. Reinstalled Norton and worked just fine. *shrugs*

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:07 pm
by Wyrmwing
Blame SecuROM.. always blame SecuROM..

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:48 am
by jaythespacehound
lol, agreed

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 7:20 am
by Game-Extremist
You think a little scratch is bad huh? I evening I was late playing something I moved my chair and heard a vague cracking noise and thought nothing more of it.....the following evening i went looking for my NWN play cd.......and found it in three pieces on the floor. :cry:

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:07 am
by Espy
Interesting Fact: CDs are manufactured in such a way that a scratch of up to 500 microns wide (0.5 mm, or 1000 times the width of the pits that represent the CD's data) does not usually impact data quality. Even if a wider scratch is on the CD, or if the scratch goes along part of the track (which itself runs for some 3.5 miles), the CD's built-in error correction can fix data errors. Even a scratch of 2.5 mm in length (4000 bits of data) can be fixed without data loss! In music CDs, scratches of up to 8 mm can be fixed without a significant loss of audio quality. The CD's amazing error checking and correction is done with Reed-Solomon coding--implemented as an algorithm called CIRC (Cross-Interleaved Reed-Solomon Coding)--which is a really neat system (and which won its creators a Nobel Prize). The problem with this miracle-coding is that it takes up a whopping 66% of the space on a CD. In other words, a CD can actually hold over 2 GB of data. If you tried to use the whole CD for data, of course, not only would CD players not be able to read it (due to it not being coded properly), but it would be guaranteed to have significant data loss almost immediately.

A corollary of the Interesting Fact: if you burn several thousand CDs, only 5 out of every thousand of them will be accurate reproductions of the original. But most of them will still work properly, because of the CIRC ECC algorithm. Also, different decoder implementations get different results from decoding scratched CDs, which is why some programs can retrieve data from a scratched CD that others can't, and why some CD players can play CDs that others can't.

Having said all that though, I rather suspect even CIRC won't help if your CD is split into three pieces. Did you try taping the pieces back together?

SP

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:15 am
by Game-Extremist
No
The following week my home was burgled, a large number of electronic goods were taken including my laptop which unbelievably had my NWN CD broken into three pieces stuffed into the CDROM Drive.
So the insurance company replaced my Neverwinter Nights CD :twisted:
and gave me a cheque for a new computer which I am now very happy with....in fact Mr burgler if you are out there.......
THANKYOU :lol: - I've updated to a P4 3.4 gig, 256mb radeon with 1 gig ram at almost no cost to myself....considerably better thabn my crusty old 1.5 celeron laptop 8)

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:16 am
by Espy
:lol: That kicks ass!

SP