The World of Avlis

I tried to get this on a single-player test module, but was never offered some of the requirements.

I used a Human Fighter.

She has a BAB of at least 5, Weapon Focus in a Melee Weapon (Longsword), Dodge, Mobility and Spring Attack.

However, she was never offered either Whirlwind or Expertise.

She reached Level 40 without ever being offered these two Feats.

Why?

Any ideas please?

Only thing I can think of is 13 int for Expertise...

You need 13 Intelligence to get Expertise or Whirlwind Attack.

If you need a third voice, then yes, they are both right you need 13 int...

But Fighters are supposed to be Thick - it says so on OOTS

Incidentally, I forgot about the 4 ranks in Intimidate, but that still didn't solve the problem.

I will try again with the 13 INT.




Me Thick Fighter, me like Swords.

Nighthawk4 wrote:But Fighters are supposed to be Thick - it says so on OOTS

Fighters yes, but professionals nope

It worked


Well, who would ever have thought it - a Fighter needing to be Intelligent?


Thanks guys - Poor Falcon can't win - not Wise enough to be a Cleric and not Intelligent enough to be a Weapon Master. Condemned to be just a Meat Shield for the damn Mages in their long flowing Dresses.

Dre'Ana, why have You forsaken her?

I feel you Nighthawk. Zatiel is also low on Wisdom and Intelligence. Doesn't give a fighter too many options.

I would argue that those feats a fighter uses should draw on wisdom not intelligence.
Wisdom would be knowing when you use a certain feat and how to apply it to a situation correctly. No?

Don't forget that staying pure is an option too!

Here are a few of the options my fighter gets. It doesn't work too bad for me.

Spartan wrote:I would argue that those feats a fighter uses should draw on wisdom not intelligence.
Wisdom would be knowing when you use a certain feat and how to apply it to a situation correctly. No?

Wisdom would be how it is used correctly, and how to use things better in future, intelligence is how to use it... well, just my thoughts..

Spartan wrote:I would argue that those feats a fighter uses should draw on wisdom not intelligence.
Wisdom would be knowing when you use a certain feat and how to apply it to a situation correctly. No?

Wisdom is knowing WHAT to do, Intelligence is HOW to do it.

Four of those options require a 13 intelligence, Mortzestus (assuming thats Improved Knockdown there). Stay Smart fighters! Stay in school and listen to what your old man has to say! R.I.F.

Makes perfect sense to me

After all it is a Weapons Master .....

Not a Basher

Me like swords

Nighthawk4 wrote:It worked


Well, who would ever have thought it - a Fighter needing to be Intelligent?

*Points finger to his weaponmaster who is now wizard as well...*

Yahh.... Man, Im gonna ahve to wait till at least lvl 12 to become a WM now.......... oh well.

It doesn't matter how long it takes - it is a goal towards which Falcon can aim.

Until then:

Falcon wrote:Me like Swords

BTW - speaking of OOTS (as I was earlier), Falcon already has Great Cleave - and her cleavage isn't bad either