The World of Avlis

Heh, another general question... can someone please explain to me what does the ECL: 3 mean in Wemic's description. I asked a Wemic player today, he did his best, but I seem to be dumb and don't get it at all... what are this "beast levels"? What is ECL? It does affect xp-gaining rate, or something else/more than that?

ECL is extra levels applied to your character in a class that is weaker than true character classes.

So a wemic barbarian starts with three extra beast levels - but these beast levels are vastly weaker than three barbarian levels would have been.

A level one wemic with three beast levels is not as powerful as a level 4 character, but spawns monsters as if it were a level 4 character.

It affects your level advancement in the long run as well as how many character classes you can choose.

Oh, I see.... and it probably affects the number of levels you can get in total, so a Wemic could possibly only have 37 "normal" levels, right? Tricky!

What are the HP's, BAB etc for those beast levels btw?

the levels give 1hp each.

This especially hurts because the first three levels give you maximum HP normally.

I can't remember the stats for 3 beast levels though. *furrows brow*

ECL hurt maximum level more before the advent of stupid... err... epic levels. It was a real trade-off, especially for casters, druids and monks.

A new Wemic will get 1hp + con bonus (before adjustment) per beast level and have a BAB of 3 as an effective level 4 on start up.

That would depend on class.

Not all classes have BaB 1 at level 1

Gairus wrote:That would depend on class.

Not all classes have BaB 1 at level 1

Very true, I was coming from the preferred class of Barbarian.

This is just a curiousity question - why is it that Avlis ECL levels give 1 hp/ECL level whereas Abyss 404's give full hp for those ECL levels?

I recall red golem's post - Abyss404 specifically designed ELC to give new characters a boost due to the difficulty of the server.

Fairly sure avlis wants it to be a penatly

EDIT: Hala, too - 1hp/ecl level. Dunno about other servers.

Titanium Dragon wrote:This is just a curiousity question - why is it that Avlis ECL levels give 1 hp/ECL level whereas Abyss 404's give full hp for those ECL levels?

Because on Abyss, you need them.

ECL means effective character level for exanple if you have an ecl of 3 your character is more powerful than a level 2 but weaker than a level 3

dragon lord wrote:ECL means effective character level for exanple if you have an ecl of 3 your character is more powerful than a level 2 but weaker than a level 3

So with an ECL of 3, would you need 4000 xp points to level. As I have never played an ECL char but my understanding is that the ECL is a special class so you would need to gain the extra xp to level.

Yeah, thats right. Another reason it makes it harder.