The World of Avlis

Title says it all. I've had it with living in the South! I would post my many and varied reasons but would probably offend many people. So let's just say the weather sucks, and it does.

So where can I go with low humidity and a population of at least 500,000? Oh, and no harsh winter. Lot's of outdoor activities are a plus. Also, moving the whole family with young kids and pets, so their futures are a consideration - friends, things to do, college ect.....

Phoenix, AZ

Honolulu, Hawaii.

Funny. My brother just moved to Hawaii. Paradise it is. Also $7.00 for a box of cereal!
I really liked vacationing in Phoenix. Cool town.

Here's a plug for St. Louis. Cost of living here is great. Very family friendly. Tons of colleges and universitoids. But, yeah, it gets humid.

I hear that Portland is a real nice town.

Good luck!!

You live in St. Louis? ;O

*looks up north about 3 hours*


Missouri is pretty awesome.

Are you saying that I should let you know if I'm in Springfield? The company does have offices there..

San Diego!

Intermountain west and west coast cities that may suit (low humidity and mild winters, outdoorsy, reasonable to good for families, university locales): Albuquerque NM, Tucson AZ, San Diego CA, Bay Area CA, Sacramento/Davis CA,

If you can endure some snow (low humidity, quite outdoorsy, good for families): Denver/Boulder CO, Salt Lake City UT, Boise ID,

Places I hear people rave about, if you can endure gray/rainy winters (and high(er) costs of living): Portland OR, Vancouver BC

Places that may also be worth checking out: Reno NV, Seattle area WA

http://www.findyourspot.com/

Fun to play with even if you aren't moving. I've never gotten any spam from them (or even an email since I opted out).

Belasco wrote:http://www.findyourspot.com/

Fun to play with even if you aren't moving. I've never gotten any spam from them (or even an email since I opted out).

That was a fun little quiz. I think cities in Alaska, Vermont and Maine popped up at least 12 times in my top 24. I think I must be pining for snow.

And for the original question, Colorado is awesome, too.

Thanks for the suggestions so far. Keep em coming..

Several towns in the SW are being considered. Though I have never been that way in my life. Not sure I could get use to not having grass. And I have only met two people that grew up in that area and I'm not sure it would be good to judge all based on them

Hawaii would be great! But I am sure it is well out of my price range.

As far as Missouri goes: I grew up in Cape Girardeau and had relatives in St Louis. Neither place will give me enough climate change to suit me. Though I do like St Louis as a town i.e. the people and the vibe there.

California will probably be too expensive as well. From what I've seen the cost of living from the bay area on south if you're within two hours of the ocean is almost twice the cost of the rest of the U.S.. And I do know someone from San Diego (poor bastard), took a job here and totally regrets it, and he said that housing costs there are stupid high. He had to live two hours out of town just to afford it and then had that terrible commute to work. He still said it was worth it for the weather (high praise indeed).

I'll take a look into the NW cities.

Indianapolis isn't bad. Kind of a mid sized city with a small town feel.Cost of living and property taxes are starting to get up there though.I'd love to just leave and go someplace else, but finding a different job in this damn economy is scary. I absolutely hate my current job, but have to say the pay is decent, even though it just sucks all the joy out of my life.
I guess the grass is always greener..
A few years back a friend and me had talked about picking up and moving. For some reason we both thought either Vegas or Australia would be great places to live For Vegas we figured we'd get jobs in a nice restaurant as sou chefs or something.Sleep in the day time and work and party with beautiful women at night.I can't remember the reasoning behind Australia, but that was during a time in my life when I was a pretty hardcore practicing alcoholic heh.

Nijmegen, Netherlands!

Jazz wrote:Nijmegen, Netherlands!

To much bloody rain, atleast it was this week.

There's always Norway!

There was a time I was actively searching to move out of the country. After reviewing the good choices I decided it wasn't worth the trouble. So I'll be staying in the U.S..

Try Seattle and Portland. A bit of rain, but they're supposed to be great places to live. (not horrible summer, not horrible winters, etc.)

I've just now started digging into Portland but Seattle will probably be off the list due to high housing cost. Unless someone knows a secret community close by that is affordable?

Pekarion wrote:There's always Norway!

http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/kenya/

I would also suggest Portland Oregon. Average temps are from 35 degrees (F) during the Winter to 81 degrees (F) during the Summer. There is a bit of humidity in the Winter months, but the Summer's are normally pretty dry. There are mountains close by, and the ocean but a short distance West, a very green and normally lush place all in all.

However, if you are a sun lover, this might come as a bit of a shock, as Portland has on average 222 overcast days a year. If that is not an issue, then it might be worth consideration.

I have lived in the Portland area on occasion and I have enjoyed both the climate and the people.

Oregon also has one of the highest unemployment rates in the country.

And I know people who have had to move because it was so cloudy all the time it was affecting their health. Right now its overcast, raining, and only 59 degrees. We wear sweaters all year round.

It is a nice place, don't get me wrong, but not everything comes up roses in the Rose City.

hmmm That's a bunch of time without the sun. How's the crime?

I ask because I used to work at a factory long long time ago and worked 12 hr days. A couple weeks one winter we had some overtime and I went over a week without seeing the sun at all. It does mess with your thinker, and not in a good way. I can only imagine what a whole city of people without the sun might do - especially if jobs are scarce.

Paris!

Oh wait... they only speak french...

Hmm.... a Dutch guy once had this problem too... he made a song about it...

Waar kan ik heen, ik kan niet naar Duitsland
Kan niet naar Duitsland, daar zijn ze zo streng
Waar kan ik heen, ik kan niet naar Chili
Kan niet naar Chili, daar doen ze zo eng

'k Wil niet wonen in Koeweit
Want Koeweit dat is me te heet
En wat Amerika betreft
Dat land bestaat niet echt

Waar kan ik heen, 'k wil niet naar Noord-Ierland
Niet naar Noord-Ierland, daar gaat alles stuk
Waar kan ik heen, ik kan niet naar China
'k Wil niet naar China, dat is me te druk

'k Wil niet wonen in Schotland
Want Schotland dat is me te nat
En de USSSR
Dat gaat me net te ver

Is er leven op Pluto
Kun je dansen op de maan
Is er een plaats tussen de sterren
Waar ik heen kan gaan
Is er leven op Pluto
Kun je dansen op de maan
Is er een plaats tussen de sterren
Waar ik heen kan gaan

Waar kan ik heen, ik kan niet naar Cuba
'k Wil niet naar Cuba, dat is me te zoet
Waar kan ik heen, ik kan niet naar Polen
'k Wil niet naar Polen, daar gaat het te goed

'k Wil niet wonen in Lapland
Want Lapland dat is me te koud
En ik wil weg uit Nederland
Want hier krijg ik het benauwd

Is er leven op Pluto
Kun je dansen op de maan
Is er een plaats tussen de sterren
Waar ik heen kan gaan
Is er leven op Pluto
Kun je dansen op de maan
Is er een plaats tussen de sterren
Waar ik heen kan gaan

'k Heb getwijfeld over België
Omdat iedereen daar lacht
'k Heb getwijfeld over België
Want dat taaltje is zo zacht

'k stond zelfs in dubio
Maar ik nam geen enkel risico
'k heb getwijfeld over België
'k stond zelfs in dubio
Maar ik nam geen enkel risico
'k heb getwijfeld over België

België
België
België
België

Is er leven op Pluto
Kun je dansen op de maan
Is er een plaats tussen de sterren
Waar ik heen kan gaan
Is er leven op Pluto
Kun je dansen op de maan
Is er een plaats tussen de sterren
Waar ik heen kan gaan


Google Translate makes it to be...


Where can I go, I can not go to Germany
Can not go to Germany because they are so strict
Where can I go, I can not go to Chile
Can not go to Chile, where they do so scary

"Do not live in Kuwait k
Because Kuwait is hot to me
And America
That country does not really exist

Where can I go, 'k will not go to Northern Ireland
Not to Northern Ireland, there is everything broken
Where can I go, I can not go to China
'K Do not go to China, that's me too busy

"Do not live in Scotland k
For me Scotland is too wet
And USSSR
That's me too far

Is there life on Pluto
Can you dance to the moon
Is there a place among the stars
Where I can go
Is there life on Pluto
Can you dance to the moon
Is there a place among the stars
Where I can go

Where can I go, I can not go to Cuba
'K Refuses to Cuba, that's me too sweet
Where can I go, I can not go to Poland
'K Do not Poland, that's too good

"Do not live in Lapland k
For me that is too cold Lapland
And I want to leave the Netherlands
Because here I get nervous

Is there life on Pluto
Can you dance to the moon
Is there a place among the stars
Where I can go
Is there life on Pluto
Can you dance to the moon
Is there a place among the stars
Where I can go

"I pray doubts about Belgium
Because everyone is laughing
"I pray doubts about Belgium
Because that lingo is so soft

I stood in doubt even
But I took no risks
'K have doubts about Belgium
I stood in doubt even
But I took no risks
'K have doubts about Belgium

Belgium
Belgium
Belgium
Belgium

Is there life on Pluto
Can you dance to the moon
Is there a place among the stars
Where I can go
Is there life on Pluto
Can you dance to the moon
Is there a place among the stars
Where I can go

Love that song.

Belgium sucks tho.