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Stopping Your PC's Attack

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:16 pm
by GunnJ
Sometimes during a fight a character may need to stop attacking their opponent, whether because you don't want to DP them, or perhaps the DM crashed during the fight and isn't there to control the NPC, or what have you.

Oftentimes, especially if your character is using a ranged weapon, simply clicking on the ground doesn't stop the PC, they just step to the side and keep right on shooting.

To really stop fighting, look at the upper left-hand corner of your game screen. You will see the "attack" symbol, a dagger inside a square. Click on that symbol and your character will stop fighting.

For the mages out there, I don't know about you, but my character always wants to cast Wierd when autoattack kicks in. If you have fast enough reflexes, you can stop whatever casting your PC has started by clicking on the symbol for that spell up in the left-hand corner.

If you don't have fast reflexes, practice apologizing. :wink:

Re: Stopping Your PC's Attack

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:18 pm
by Krator
Notably, this works too when your PC is confused and randomly attacks people.

Re: Stopping Your PC's Attack

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:14 pm
by Cushman
Krator wrote:Notably, this works too when your PC is confused and randomly attacks people.
Now THIS is interesting!

As for casting as an autoattack, I can't remember that ever happening with any caster character. When does that kick in for you?

Re: Stopping Your PC's Attack

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:19 pm
by Dashral
Had that happen to El'gos a couple of times during a contest. Fight was over, I hadn't set my opponent to neutral yet, and WHAM! Here comes a Wail of the Banshee and death planes him... :oops:

Re: Stopping Your PC's Attack

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:46 pm
by PsiOmega
Cushman wrote:
Krator wrote:Notably, this works too when your PC is confused and randomly attacks people.
Now THIS is interesting!

As for casting as an autoattack, I can't remember that ever happening with any caster character. When does that kick in for you?
As far as I know there is no conclusive answer to that question. It's rare and it's annoying. Curiously enough, when it happens and there are multiple hostile people in the area it triggers everyone.

Re: Stopping Your PC's Attack

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:52 pm
by Marleh
Not that rare. :x

Re: Stopping Your PC's Attack

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:05 am
by maxinion
PsiOmega wrote:
Cushman wrote:
Krator wrote:Notably, this works too when your PC is confused and randomly attacks people.
Now THIS is interesting!

As for casting as an autoattack, I can't remember that ever happening with any caster character. When does that kick in for you?
As far as I know there is no conclusive answer to that question. It's rare and it's annoying. Curiously enough, when it happens and there are multiple hostile people in the area it triggers everyone.
Its only ever happened to me when I am hostile to someone and they are not, or vice versa. It can even be something as simple as someone setting you to neutral after cvc, and you're just about to go neutral yourself, and BAM that small amount of time is enough to get meteor swarm cast and 5 people go to bleeding. :(

Re: Stopping Your PC's Attack

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:51 am
by l1t3r
Krator wrote:Notably, this works too when your PC is confused and randomly attacks people.
I would comment on using this to stop the effects of confusion and say that it might be pretty close to metagaming engine issues. I wouldn't do it.

As for stopping attacks....I don't understand. :twisted:

Re: Stopping Your PC's Attack

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:55 am
by Cushman
l1t3r wrote:
Krator wrote:Notably, this works too when your PC is confused and randomly attacks people.
I would comment on using this to stop the effects of confusion and say that it might be pretty close to metagaming engine issues. I wouldn't do it.
Yeah, thought of that too. Probably right, just don't do it. I had no idea you could stop that though, and it seems like I've been playing the game forever. Learn something every day.

Re: Stopping Your PC's Attack

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:56 am
by l1t3r
heh, yeah, likewise.

Re: Stopping Your PC's Attack

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:00 am
by Ninjar
Luckily Vilne tries to shoot his bow without any arrows most of the time. Apparently chain lightning isn't high on the queue. :P

Re: Stopping Your PC's Attack

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:03 am
by Urizen
Having killed everyone else in the party on several occasions while confused, I have to ask: why?


Its immensely satisfying!

Re: Stopping Your PC's Attack

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:24 am
by Chemical-Burn
I wouldnt stop attacking others while confused cause rarely do I get a decent IC reason to lay the smack down on the people nearby :D

Re: Stopping Your PC's Attack

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:40 am
by Ringwraith
You said clicking to move doesn't work... you need to click further away! ;)
If you click too close to your current position it reads it as a combat move order rather than a proper move order.
Well, it SHOULD do anyway, the engine does do weird things at times.

Re: Stopping Your PC's Attack

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:23 pm
by loki70
Yeah, I've had my character, for one reason or another, really really hate on someone in autoattack. Sometimes he just punches, other times the AI will kick in and do a stunning fist followed immediately by a quivering palm and an IKD, just in case. I for one am glad he can't be confused any more.

Re: Stopping Your PC's Attack

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:42 pm
by Moredo
I think you can just hit the escape button?

Re: Stopping Your PC's Attack

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:07 pm
by Gorgon
Why would you want to stop attacking people while confused? No fun! If people forget to give Smeec mind protection, or go cheap with only protection from evil, I hope he does get confused (though his ac goes to shit while flatfooted). Messy, messy fun!!!

I am serious about that, and also agree you shouldn't be able to stop with this trick. Sounds like exploiting the engine to me.

Re: Stopping Your PC's Attack

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:10 pm
by Eef
The absolute best about autoattacking is your character suddenly equipping other stuff, like IDable gear you want to keep secret, or even using stuff they shouldn't be able to use. I've had my Confounder casting spells she doesn't have.

Re: Stopping Your PC's Attack

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:12 pm
by nwmblondy
Eef wrote: I've had my Confounder casting spells she doesn't have.
You mean spells she forgot she had, then remembered again, then went for somethign to eat, then waited in a que for soem reason before comign back and not knowing where it was she went for whatever it was she got there for? But in the mean time everything ended up pretty colours?

Re: Stopping Your PC's Attack

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:17 pm
by Eef
Haha, yeah, I explained it away by "Forian!!!"

Re: Stopping Your PC's Attack

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:36 pm
by DanishPastry
Krator wrote:Notably, this [clicking the attack symbol in the upper left corner ~Danish] works too when your PC is confused and randomly attacks people.
Putting my Team Hat(TM) on I can safely say: For reasons I would think obvious, under these circumstances one shouldn't be able to stop attacking so please refrain from doing this as technically it constitutes an exploit of the game engine.

Game on.

Re: Stopping Your PC's Attack

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:56 pm
by korak
I did not know this, but I find it useful when you are mining, about to get full and want to shovel ore into your bags. You can stop mining without running off a ways to stop the mining process.
Scott

Re: Stopping Your PC's Attack

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:03 pm
by Cushman
Getting back to that, just a nudge sideways using the movement keys will stop fighting and queued spellcasting too. That doesn't work for confusion though.

Re: Stopping Your PC's Attack

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:56 pm
by GunnJ
Cushman wrote:Getting back to that, just a nudge sideways using the movement keys will stop fighting and queued spellcasting too. That doesn't work for confusion though.
No, it doesn't. I use my movement keys all the time in battle, while my character is casting or fighting, and it doesn't stop my PC's combat at all.

That is the point of why I started this thread. Just a nudge sideways does NOT work reliably. Clicking near your character doesn't work reliably. Clicking further away from your character may not be an option, still doesn't work reliably, and drags your character 10, 20 ft across the screen.

Click on the combat icon and stop fighting. That's it. Then you don't have to apologize as the DM has to reset all the NPCs, or apologize and pay for someone's resurrection.

Re: Stopping Your PC's Attack

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:02 pm
by korak
Yeah..who would want to stop that confusion anyways. It was great fun getting confused, chasing Raran to a dead end and then dev critting him. :P

Scott