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Re: Avlis policy on: CvC Rules - Setting hostile

PostAuthor: Stebby Surehand » Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:51 pm

[quote="Grunt"]Also, if I recall correctly, it doesn't notify them, so it allows the setting to remain OOC. If you think you were attacked without being set hostile, check the player menu, they'll show up as hostile there even if you didn't get the message.[/quote]
Is this true? I fail to see the point of setting hostile if the targeted player isn't notified. Can someone explain please?

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~Stebby

PS. Weird, I can't quote either, though Grunt's quote displayed properly when I viewed his post...
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Re: Avlis policy on: CvC Rules - Setting Hostile

PostAuthor: Moredo » Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:12 pm

Some strange settings on this subforum. Seems the BBCode is turned off.
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Re: Avlis policy on: CvC Rules - Setting Hostile

PostAuthor: Eklektikos » Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:14 pm

The point is that certain things - spells, abilities etc - will not work against an opponent that is not hostile to you, therefore by not setting hostile before you attack, you potentially buy yourself an OOC advantage as your opponent may have to take the time to set you hostile before they can respond effectively.
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Re: Avlis policy on: CvC Rules - Setting Hostile

PostAuthor: Li'll Divvil » Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:18 pm

Setting hostile is purely ooc so that the NWN engine will allow for the appropriate response in terms of counterattacks automatic responses and spell targeting actions etc..

The target IC'ly does not need to know he's been set hostile ever (as it is an engine action not an IC one). Even OOC'ly you need to know you have been set hostile only after the fact or at the exact moment the attack occurs the earliest, because if you knew in advance and see that as important for your action /reaction you are metagaming a future attack that has not occurred or may not even occur at all and that your character IC'ly would not have any knowledge of until it actually occurs.

Example:
a PC assassin comes along notices you sit and chat at EG, then leaves the area comes back while hiding in shadows and observes you from the shadows. He follows you when you leave busy EG and attacks you from the shadows the moment you are alone. Your PC never sees him until the moment the DA drops you to bleed after which all goes dark......

Now where in this entire scenario should you know OOC'ly that he has set you hostile? And why would that IC'ly be important?

OOC actions should never determine IC responses
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Re: Avlis policy on: CvC Rules - Setting Hostile

PostAuthor: Darkfire » Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:18 am

First post already says all of that.

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Re: Avlis policy on: CvC Rules - Setting Hostile

PostAuthor: Belasco » Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:08 am

Please take discussion to GD, thanks!
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