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Re: Nanshilae words.

PostAuthor: gutemensch » Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:04 pm

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Fort unclear
Boarder town unclear
Badlands unclear
Dungeon Mishmar (Dungeon is also jail, prison and pit)
Golem Gelem
Portal unclear
Magical unclear
Horse (for when they get put in) Hsus or Sus
Cat Hatoul
Dog Kelev
Deer Tzvi
Pig Chazir
Rabbit Shafan
Dragon Tanniyn
Whore Sharlila or Zonah
Pirate Shoded
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Re: Nanshilae words.

PostAuthor: AShadowsWhisper » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:21 am

A lot of the animal names would be something very welcomed. (Wolf, being one. *coughs*)

Some random words:

Too/Also
Before

Verbs:

To use
To hunt
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Re: Nanshilae words.

PostAuthor: Darkfire » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:26 am

Gute:

magic manaena
magical manaenahat
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Re: Nanshilae words.

PostAuthor: gutemensch » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:31 am

Thanks I'll add those the my master and list and see what I can find on the others.
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Re: Nanshilae words.

PostAuthor: gutemensch » Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:34 pm

Since the servers are down. These are direct Hebrew words with the exception of few. I don't do Wiki, last few times in there attempting to change up Nawen's Wiki entry proved to be an utter mistake. You don't want me touching the Wiki.

Fort biyrah
Boarder town gabalchavvah
Badlands bi'uwsh'adamah
Dungeon ishmar (Dungeon is also jail, prison and pit)
Golem gelem
Portal nasa'(means transported or transporters)
Magic manaena
magical manaenahat
Horse hsus or sus
Cat Hatoul
Dog Kelev
Deer Tzvi
Stag awph
Leaping siys
Pig Chazir
Rabbit Shafan
Dragon Tanniyn
Whore Sharlila or Zonah
Pirate Shoded
Fuck You Lech ta
Victory Netzach
Glory Hod
Forever havera
Knowledge Daat
Revenge Nikamah
Vengeance Nakum
arcane Arca
Kill rtsh
Murder Ratsach
Soul (spark) nephesh
Spirit ruach
Mistress tehilah
Master abba or Tuval (to many words and no clear choice)
Dress Seem'Lah
Uniform Mah'Deem
Rain geshem
Snow sheleg
Cloud anan
Dressmaker adham
Shit Cha-ra or Chara or Harah
wild prai'im
Free hofshi'im
Soul nishmati
Yesterday le'ooharan'hod'yoom
Gold betser
Treasure 'owtsar
Walk darak
Night 'emesh
Midnight chatsowth
Day 'owr
Reward 'ethnah
War garah
Beware hava'
Staff matteh
Fate yowm
Spin tavah
Necromancer dorash'
Transmutant haphak(means change)
PSI Mage maHshavot(thought) kashaph
mage kashaph
magician's enchantments lat
Illusionist me'onen
Dance chuwl
hair dallah
Suit `erek
Thunderstorm zerem'raam
Before 'aph
Sleep yashen
Rest 'achariyth
Quiet charash
silence duwmiyah
Scream gadowl
Path derekh
Humble kana
Frail anash
Plague/Disaster micah


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Re: Nanshilae words.

PostAuthor: wolfwielder » Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:35 pm

Plague/Disaster micah


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Re: Nanshilae words.

PostAuthor: gutemensch » Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:14 pm

Since I am bored and can't leave till the damn doctor calls and tells me they faxed in the paperwork so I can take the kid's meds to his school. I give you.

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Re: Nanshilae words.

PostAuthor: Ghostie » Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:56 pm

Nice - before adding these to the wiki do they need to be approved?

I can add them tomorrow if they are ok to be put up there.
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Re: Nanshilae words.

PostAuthor: gutemensch » Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:44 pm

Awaken oorah
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Re: Nanshilae words.

PostAuthor: GunnJ » Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:47 pm

Ghostie wrote:Nice - before adding these to the wiki do they need to be approved?

I can add them tomorrow if they are ok to be put up there.
I think they need to be nanshilaed first, as these words are direct from hebrew. There aren't enough ooye's yet. Also, there are a few double-ups that perhaps the exact meaning needs to be determined.

For example, Lieulia is already listed for the word night. So perhaps lieulia can be changed slightly to mean evening, 'emesh be changed to yemesh to mean true night, and chatsowth be changed to chatsyemesh for midnight.
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Re: Nanshilae words.

PostAuthor: gutemensch » Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:52 pm

Ghostie wrote:Nice - before adding these to the wiki do they need to be approved?

I can add them tomorrow if they are ok to be put up there.



Not up to me. The words I provided are Hebrew and range from old biblical Hebrew to Modern. I did see some similarities between Nanshilae and Hebrew. Most of Nanshilae seems to be the phonetic spelling of Hebrew. Which was something I had a major trouble finding in Latin alphabet; it was always Hebrew alphabet and I don't understand that at all. I posted the Latin alphabet version to the Hebrew word.
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Re: Nanshilae words.

PostAuthor: Darkfire » Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:20 pm

Ghostie wrote:Nice - before adding these to the wiki do they need to be approved?

I can add them tomorrow if they are ok to be put up there.


spool32 wrote:I have been adding the last few to the wiki. Suppose I could take it on.. if someone can give me a group of proposals, or just the English and straight hebrew, I can make sure they fit the grammatical idiosyncrasies of nanshilae and edit the wiki accordingly..
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Re: Nanshilae words.

PostAuthor: gutemensch » Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:26 pm

If anyone wants a word. Post it and I'll what I can find for it.
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Re: Nanshilae words.

PostAuthor: gutemensch » Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:05 pm

From hanging out at the Elf Gate

Witch kashaph
Bitch keilu
Flame 'esh
Poor dallah
Rich gadowl
Story midrash
History ivri
Heat 'aza'
Cold choreph
Warm cham
Cool puwach
Insane metorefet
Crazy meshuggah
Bastard mamzer
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Re: Nanshilae words.

PostAuthor: gutemensch » Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:14 am

For Grunt:

Ideal Chaphas (well-conceived is the best I can find atm)

For Olaf (from her event with Le'Nofaythen) :

Swinging Cabab
Dick Zayin
and thus Cabab Zayin
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Re: Nanshilae words.

PostAuthor: Olaf » Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:00 pm

gutemensch wrote:For Grunt:

Ideal Chaphas (well-conceived is the best I can find atm)

For Olaf (from her event with Le'Nofaythen) :

Swinging Cabab
Dick Zayin
and thus Cabab Zayin


Ew.. it's "Dick Swinger" not swinging dick.. hahaha
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Re: Nanshilae words.

PostAuthor: Grunt » Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:03 pm

gutemensch wrote:For Grunt:

Ideal Chaphas (well-conceived is the best I can find atm)

For Olaf (from her event with Le'Nofaythen) :

Swinging Cabab
Dick Zayin
and thus Cabab Zayin


Idea, not ideal! I'm just tired of "li idea" being a nanshilae staple :P
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Re: Nanshilae words.

PostAuthor: AShadowsWhisper » Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:42 am

Need more numbers as well! I am by no means an expert at this and I could be horribly off at following the proper guidelines and style. Hopefully this has the right nanshilae feel to it! All the "new" numbers are custom (though some have other RL meanings, or are acronyms or something, but it is unintentional) If the right people in the right places don't like this, no worries! But it is here if you'd like to make it official.

Lastly, there could be some errors. I just made this up, so if you see any conflicts or contradictions, don't be afraid to point them out.

Existing:
value x1 wrote:1. hod
2. shta
3. loash
4. bah
5. maysh
6. shaysh
7. sheev
8. shmoe
9. taysh


I'd like to see some more numbers added. (esra is 10, it exists already)

value x10 wrote:1. esra
2. shny
3. lasha
4. arba
5. mishya
6. shish
7. shvi
8. mona
9. tish

value x100 wrote:1. rish
2. niyah
3. shla
4. aab
5. ames
6. sesh
7. vehes
8. shma
9. tes



Examples:

29.

    taysh'shny

(229 - nine and twenty and two hundreds... I put different formats to see what is liked best)
    taysh'shny-niyah
    taysh'shny'niyah

500.

    ames

(567 - seven and sixty and five hundreds)

    sheev'shish-ames
    sheev'shish'ames

1,542

    There's lots of ways we could do that. To stick with the proper style, I'd propose this: (2 + 40 + 600 + 900)

    shta'arba-sesh v'tes
    shta'arba'sesh v'tes
    shta'arba'sesh-tes
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Re: Nanshilae words.

PostAuthor: megamegamega » Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:08 pm

Grunt wrote:Idea, not ideal! I'm just tired of "li idea" being a nanshilae staple :P


I've used "li daat" or "eni li daat", "I don't know."
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Re: Nanshilae words.

PostAuthor: Grunt » Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:50 am

Hebrew word for "to hunt": tsadah
Suggested Nanshilae:
Hunt (v): tzadahlas
Hunt (n): tzadahlith
Hunters: tzadahlthen (follows rules of Le'nofaythen, dropping the last syllable of the root verb tza-dahl-as)
Hunter (male): tzadahlth
Huntress (female): tzadahlthan

Hunt well! - tzadahl'toova!
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Re: Nanshilae words.

PostAuthor: Pathos Street » Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:32 am

Can someone nanshilae-fy and official stamp some of these? They'd be very useful.
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Re: Nanshilae words.

PostAuthor: spool32 » Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:49 am

I will look at them! *hacks away at the growing pile*
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Re: Nanshilae words.

PostAuthor: Pathos Street » Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:00 am

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Re: Nanshilae words.

PostAuthor: AShadowsWhisper » Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:57 am

:prost:

Look forward to it.
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Re: Nanshilae words.

PostAuthor: Grunt » Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:25 pm

I've (with Spool's blessing) added a bunch of words to the wiki the past few days. Most of them are verbs.

Of the suggested words here in this thread, I'll be grabbing the hebrew suggestions that gute found, and trying to Nanshify them.

The verbs weren't too difficult... I used a search engine that returned several words for each one (damned old languages) and I looked for ones out of those results that seemed to carry the known syllables that nanshilae makes use of. Then, if it was a short verb, toss on a las, tas, ras...etc and away we went. I think I added 35-40 verbs. Apologies for any bastardization of the languages (Hebrew/Nanshilae).

If there's a verb you want to see/use, check to see if there's a synonym for it. Keeping the language simple yet effective is a goal here. So, while there is a verb for look and one for see (or hear and listen), those are similar actions but differing intents. You can hear without listening, or look without seeing/spotting. But, in a case like "become", it fits with a future "to be", and would not be as necessary. "I will become king" = "I will be king in the future" = "Eni e'hay Fletcher" ]8) . "She became angry" = "She is being angry in the past" = "Hayah kaos".

Yeah, speaking of "to be", pathos and I got a future "to be" and past "to be" going (mostly pathos with me nodding along in agreement). While the present "to be" is an irregular verb and is implied, there was never a noted verb to use for past and future. So, a warm welcome to "hayas" the mystery verb!

Present Tense: (still implied. If not, it would be Eni hay toova etc. So, we drop the verb here)
* I am good. Eni toova.
* You are good. Ta toova.
* He is good. Loo toova.
* She is good. Lah toova.
* We are good. Nethnu toova.
* You are good. Tem toova.
* They are good. Loom toova.

Past Perfect:

* I was good. Hayti toova.
* You were good. Hayta toova.
* He was good. Hayoe toova.
* She was good. Hayah toova.
* We were good. Haynu toova.
* You were good. Haytem toova.
* They were good. Hayoo toova.

Future Imperfect:

* I will be good. Eni e'hay toova.
* You will be good. Ta tee'hay toova.
* He will be good. Loo ye'hay toova.
* She will be good. Lah ye'hay toova.
* We will be good. Nethnu ne'hay toova.
* You will be good. Tem tee'hay toova.
* They will be good. Loom ye'hay toova.


One note on past/future (also from spool). Elves in general are not as concerned with exact times/dates of events, preferring to think in terms of seasons or longer stretches of time. So, we don't have a tomorrow/yesterday (though you can use "yoomen aeleh" - "days before" or "yoomen leebah" - "days next").

Next stop: more nouns and adjectives.
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