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PostAuthor: Orleron » Sun Dec 29, 2002 12:37 am

Follow my logic here,

The elves of Avlis were created by a god named Dru'El. In his mortal life, he was a human who got instructions from the elven god Corellon Larethian on how to make elves when he became a god.

Dru'El was fascinated by the spirit population that used to inhabit Avlis before the time of the gods. Unfortunately, most (almost all) of them were wiped out in the battle between the nine gods and the evil Negerai invader god which nearly destroyed Avlis in the beginning. The population of spirits was low to begin with because even before the major deities ascended to godhood, the Negerai had gated in hoards of Ta'Nari which began to EAT the spirits. :)

Still, Dru'El wanted the language of his elven people to be the same language that was once spoken by the benevolent nature spirits that inhabited the world. He made due with whatever fragments could be found and filled in the rest himself. Thus, the elven language on Avlis today is a derivative of the spirit language and therefore differs greatly from elven languages on other worlds such as Krynn or Toril or Middle Earth.

The word the spirits used to describe themselves as a whole was "Nanshae" (pronounced: non-SHAY). Later over time, the elves adopted this word to describe the elven species as a whole, but it was spelled Nanshi and pronounced "NON-shee". However, the elves in the Northern part of the country still use the old pronunciation of "non-SHAY".

Apostrope's in the Avlissian elven language are often used to denote the word "of", much like slang English will use o', as in "pile o' stuff". Except in elven it's proper usage. The Avlissian elven word for land is Tana (TA-na) and the early elven name for their nation was Tan' Nanshi, later shortened to T'Nanshi, or "Land of the Elves".


An interesting note about Drangonari Elves:

The drangonari elves were a creation by the god Angadar. When he ascended to godhood, he immediately got the lofty idea to create a race of his own, and taking the form of one of his enemies, an avariel (winged) elf, Angadar corrupted the form into the drangonari. They are almost identical to the avariel in stature and build, and they even once had leathery wings in place of the angelic wings of the avariel. Also in place of soft white skin they have dark green scales much like a lizard, and they always have black hair.

Through an unknown and disasterous series of events, 99.99% of all drangonari lost their wings, and the ones born today do not have them at all. Few remaining ones do, and they are considered to be direct descendants of Angadar himself, whom the drangonari all revere, even if they don't openly worship him.

Angadar was once a mortal elf born on Toril, which is the planet of the Forgotten Realms setting. The elven language which HE speaks IS the Forgotten Realms elven language, and that is the language which he taught to his creations.

So on Avlis, the old elven language that is seen in so many other campaign worlds is actually the spoken language of the drangonari! So, you may want to watch what language you speak in front of the Avlissian high elves!

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PostAuthor: Orleron » Sun Dec 29, 2002 1:17 am

A few words in Avlissian elven:


Elven English

' of (this is pronounced as a sharp cutoff of the word it follows)
Karna forsaken
Ray battle
T' Land of...
(short for Tan')
Nanshi Elf (singular), Elven
Pelail pleasant, nice
Nan field
Tal dew
Sha full
Sh' full of
Dera way
aek passage
Der'ek way of passage, i.e. road
Thayt house
Thayt' house of
Karak dwarf, dwarven
zvidurat trade (noun)
firia fire
ath anger, wrath
-eth (ending) -ton, town (like English names have EdmonTON)
Nir Sea
ranos haven, safe place (implies an outside area of fields)
sha'l haven, safe place (implies an outside area of forest)
cornath haven, safe place (implies an inside area)
quitha fish
yur old
noritath grove
gwenverae stronghold, castle
renathae keep (a smaller castle)
yoom day
lieulia night (pronounced LOO-lee-ah)
Cha heart
Reth sun
Le' the
Nanshilae elven (the language itself)
Leshtoneth potion




Expressions:

Yoom pelail! Good day! (Hello!)
Lieulia pelail! Good evening/ Good night!
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PostAuthor: Orleron » Wed Jan 08, 2003 8:59 pm

Some more notes on developing the language. Basic words and grammar.


Pronouns
1st Person: I - Eni
We - Nethnu

2nd Person: You - Ta
You -Tem

3rd Person: He/She - Loo/Lah
They - Loom


I actually do have most of the grammar in my head, and I am able to derive the words from a few different languages I know. So I will post more as it unfolds.
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PostAuthor: Orleron » Sat Jan 18, 2003 11:32 pm

Nouns

singular

Thayt ---> house
Ray ----> battle
Nan ---> field
Dera ---> way



plural


Thayten ---> houses
Rayen ---> battles
Nanen ---> fields
Deran ---> ways


If the word ends in a consonant, add "-en". If the word ends in a vowel, add "n".
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PostAuthor: Orleron » Mon Feb 17, 2003 4:25 am

The accent is always on the first sylable unless otherwise noted.

More words:

gartha stranger
good toova
bad ras
friendly havera
watcher, guard shemath
thing doovar
something medoovar

from M'

to watch, to guard shemaras (accent on 3rd sylable, as)






The verb "to be".

The only irregular verb in the Avlissian elven tongue is the verb "to be". In elven, the verb "to be" is implied in the present tense.

I am good. Eni toova.

You are good. Ta toova.

He is good. Loo toova.

She is good. Lah toova.


We are good. Nethnu toova.

You are good. Tem toova.

They are good. Loom toova.



Example:

I am a friendly stranger from the fields. Eni gartha havera M'Le'nanen.


Adjectives come after the nouns: friendly stranger gartha havera

The preposition "from" is M', and it is used in much the same was as the word "the", Le'.
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PostAuthor: Orleron » Mon Feb 17, 2003 10:51 pm

Verb conjugation:

Infinitives end in -as.
The rest of the word is called the "stem".

To guard shemaras
stem is shemar

Present Indicative tense
Singular verbs, remove the as ending and use the stem by itself:

I guard Eni shemar
You guard Ta shemar
He/She/It guards Loo/Lah/Loo shemar.

Plural verbs, add -u to the stem:

We guard Nethnu shemaru
You guard Tem shemaru
They guard Loom shemaru



Present Perfect tense: (In the present perfect tense, it is not necessary to use the pronoun. Thus, I guarded, "Eni shemarti", can be "shemarti".

Accent is on the second sylable in this tense.

I guarded shemarti
You guarded shemarta
He guarded shemaroe
She guarded shemarah

We guarded shemarnu
You guarded shemartem
They guarded shemaroo


Future imperfect:

I will guard Eni e'shemar
You will guard Ta tee'shemar
He/She/It will guard loo/lah/loo ye'shemar

We will guard Nethnu ne'shemar
You (pl) will guard Tem tee'shemaru
They will guard Loom ye'shemaru


Converting a verb to a noun:

-Take the stem and add the 'ith' ending.

Some verbs like Sheras (to sing) do not follow this rule.

Examples:

taynas (to give) becomes taynith (giving)

tikvooas (to hope) becomes tikvooith (hope, or hoping)

There is no distinction in elven between the gerund (-ing ending) form of a verb turned into a noun and its non gerund form. Thus, hope and hoping are both tikvooith, and you must know the context of the sentence to figure out which is which.


Other verbs:
(when pronouncing the infinitive, the accent is on the last sylable)

to go, to walk lulecetas
to come vooas
to journey lensoetas
to speak dooberas
to say oomeras
to want, to need retzelathas
to be able to yucolas
to learn moderas
to buy knotas
to see reyalas
to know daatas
to sell lemcoras
to like, to enjoy oohevas
to hope tikvooas
to attack nofaylas
to kill horagas
to stand maydithas
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PostAuthor: Orleron » Mon Feb 17, 2003 11:02 pm

Other important words:

Yes fen
No li


Conjunctions:

And V'
But eval
Or oo
Nor nui
yet bes
so cas
for besvel



Some phrases:

I speak elven. Eni doober nanshilae.
Do you speak elven? Doober ta nanshilae?
I do not speak elven, but I want to learn. Eni li doober nanshilae, eval eni retzelath moderas.
Greetings!/Well met! Pelail!
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PostAuthor: Orleron » Wed Feb 19, 2003 4:26 am

Indirect pronouns:

me ni
you ta
him loe
her loah
us lenu
you (pl) tem
them loom


Indirect pronouns with prepositions:

from me M'ni
from you M'ta
from him M'loe
from her M'loah
from us M'lenu
from you M'tem
from them M'loom
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PostAuthor: Orleron » Fri Feb 21, 2003 1:42 pm

Location words:

here foe
there shoom
in B'
on ool
in the B'Le'
on the oolle
by, near ooleyad

Possesion:

mine shooli
yours shoola
his/its shooloe
hers shooloah
ours shoolu
yours (pl) shoolem
theirs shooloom


Other words:


forest Yeritath
Spring aviviya
Summer kaytza
Fall stova
Winter hirefya
spice zonoya
fruit piriarn
leaf lonovan
wine yeyin
season zamin
all awl
tourist teeyar
friend hoovaire
thing dover
that, which D'
bow and arrow keeshen V'hootz
now shav
armor sheeryoona
journey lensoa
shield megen
time zemanath
Welcome Pelail
traveler oollensoa
tree etzeth
tavern, inn faav
Council Mithoeatzeth
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PostAuthor: Orleron » Sun Feb 23, 2003 1:41 am

Showing possession:

The elven language does not use the verb to have in the same way as most other languages. Instead of saying "I have", they are literally saying "There is to me".

You can make statements of possesion by adding the proper personal ending to the root "Yayn'", as below:


I have (literally: There is to me): Yayn'ni
You have (There is to you): Yayn'ta
He/It has (There is to him/it): Yayn'loe
She has (There is to her): Yayn'loah
We have (There is to us): Yayn'lenu
You have (pl) (There is to you): Yayn'tem
They have (There is to them): Yayn'loom

To make these negative, add the word no, "Li" in front of them.

I don't have Li Yayn'ni
You don't have Li Yayn'ta
He/it doesn't have Li Yayn'loe
She doesn't have Li Yayn'loah
We don't have Li Yayn'lenu
You don't have (pl) Li Yayn'tem
They don't have Li Yayn'loom
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PostAuthor: Orleron » Sun Feb 23, 2003 1:44 am

Question words:

What Meh
Who Meen
When Mitayn
Where Eyeh
How Ayt
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PostAuthor: Orleron » Sat Mar 15, 2003 12:59 am

Cardinal Numbers:


one hod
two shta
three loash
four bah
five maysh
six shaysh
seven sheev
eight shmoe
nine taysh
ten esra



Council of The Nine Mithoeatzeth'Le'Taysh
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PostAuthor: Orleron » Wed Mar 19, 2003 3:13 pm

Some more words:
(If someone ever feels like alphabetizing these things and sending me a copy, I'd be greatful.)

Nouns:

raven oorayv
hair sayr
shadow tzeleth
moon levena
mother aym
father oovu


Verbs:
to feel hergathas
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PostAuthor: Orleron » Wed Mar 19, 2003 6:47 pm

Yay! An alphebetized list of words:

Elven English
acceptable oyf toova
adult meged
adventure secoona
adventurer secoonayt
afraid pehood
agile zerees
alcohol aylcol
all awl
ally hoovaire'ray
also gem
although off
And V'
anger, wrath ath
angry kaos
animal kaya
any oyzeh
arm zeroe
armed im neshet
armor sheeryoona
arrow hootz
as kemoo
assassin ra'tzay'rin
aunt looda
back (of torso) laav
bad ras
balance mayzen
bandit goonva
bartender bermen
battle ray
beautiful yoofeh
beer birya
behind (preposition) meleh
big goodel
blade lehev
border ganool
boring mishemeh
both stay
boy yeledel
bow keeshen
brave ement
bright vehir
brother ookt
bush see
But eval
by, near ooleyad
chest, container mik
chest, torso toors
child yeled
comfortable naeen
correct nookan
Council Mithoeatzeth
cousin vanloond
Damn! Zoozah
danger seeknah
dangerous seeknalah
dark hoosekh
darnkess hooseh
danger sicanath
dangerous sicanatheh
daughter vat
day yoom
dew Tal
drink stot
dwarf, dwarven Karak
eight shmoe
either za oo za
Elf (sing.), Elven Nanshi
elven (language) Nanshilae
ever laylom
exciting rigooshah
expensive yookar
Fall stova
family mespah
fast moohar
father oovu
field Nan
fire firia
fish quitha
five maysh
food ookal
for besvel
forest Yeritath
forsaken Karna
four bah
friend hoovaire
friendly havera
from M'
fruit piriarn
full of Sh'
full Sha
girl yeledela
god, deity heem
good toova
goodbye oo'good'toova (short for "oohev goodel toova", i.e. Love well)
gratitude, thanks dotah
grove noritath
hair sayr
half hitzi
hand yed
happy naia
haven, safe place cornath
(implies an inside
area)
haven, safe place ranos
(implies an outside
area of fields)
haven, safe place sha'l
(implies an outside
area of forest)
He/She Loo/Lah
healthy loobritah
heart Cha
her loah
here foe
hers shooloah
Hey! ey!
him loe
his/its shooloe
house of Thayt'
house Thayt
How Ayt
human adom
hungry riayva
husband nanshileesh'oohevith
I Eni
if in
in B'
inner bina
in the B'Le'
journey lensoa
keep (small castle) renathae
Land of... T'
(short for Tan')
last ooharan
leaf lonovan
left (direction) smool
less pihoot
little (as in, "a little bit") kootzet
long erooha
Look out! sic!
magic manaena
magical manaenahat
man (adult elven male) nanshileesh
maybe/perhaps laylai
me ni
mine shooli
missing oevard
moon levena
more ood
most yootir
mother aym
mother-in-law aym'oohevith
much/many hoormay
neice vat'ookt (daughter of brother)
neice vat'ooktan (daughter of sister)
neither gem li
nephew van'ookt (son of brother)
nephew van'ooktan (son of sister)
never naylom
new hoodas
next leebah
night (pronounced lieulia
LOO-lee-ah)
nine taysh
No li
Nor nui
now shav
Oh no! li shav!
OK! fen toova!
of (pronounced as '
a sharp cutoff of
the word it follows)
old yur
on ool
once poam
on the oolle
one hod
Or oo
Orc vlook
Order Sedera
ours shoolu
out hootz
outer hootzeh
passage aek
pleasant, nice pelail
poor aynee
potion Leshtoneth
powerful hezook
quickly moohir
raven oorayv
rich aysheer
right (direction) yemol
road, i.e. way Der'ek
of passage
safe moog
Sea Nir
season zamin
seven sheev
shadow tzeleth
shield megen
short ketzir
sick noleh
sister ooktan
six shaysh
slow lot
slowly lotet
small kooten
smart kokom
snow shelega
so cas
something medoovar
son van
song sher
spice zonoya
Spring aviviya
star kohav
stranger gartha
stronghold, castle gwenverae
stupid toopaysh
Summer kaytza
sun Reth
sword hareva
tavern, inn faav
ten esra
than kemoo
thank you dot'ooli, dotah shooli (my gratitude)
that, which D'
the Le'
theirs shooloom
them loom
there shoom
They Loom
thing doovar
thirsty tzoomah
this za
three loash
time zemanath
tired aiyef
tourist teeyar
town, -ton (like -eth (ending)
English names have
EdmonTON)
trade (noun) zvidurat
traveler oollensoa
tree etzeth
two shta
ugly moocoah
uncle loond
undead mooteran D'Lulecet (sing.)/ mooteranen D'Lulecetu (pl.)
us lenu
very mod
watcher, guard shemath
water maima
way Dera
We Nethnu
weak hoolas
weapon neshet
Welcome Pelail
What Meh
When Mitayn
Where Eyeh
whether ayloo
while b'zemanath' _____
Who Meen
Why lima
wife nanshileeshan'oohevith
wind roo
wine yeyin
Winter hirefya
with im
woman (adult elven female) nanshileeshan
wonderful naialah
wrong sheg
Yes fen
yet bes
you (pl) tem
you ta
young tooir
yours (pl) shoolem
yours shoola




Verbs:
to attack nofaylas
to be able to yucolas
to bless berathas
to buy knotas
to call kraytas
to cast mankraytas
to come vooas
to create vroathas
to die mootas
to drink stotas
to eat ookalas
to excuse silathas
to feel hergathas
to finish gemoratas
to forget sahakthas
to fly oyfas
to give taynas
to go, to walk lulecetas
to hate senatas
to heal refanas
to help oozaerlas
to hit dafakas
to hope tikvooas
to journey lensoetas
to kill horagas
to know daatas
to learn moderas
to leave ayzavas
to like, to enjoy oohevas
to listen sematas
to lose aybedas
to love oohevas goodel
to read lekronas
to remember zecoras
to rest noomas
to return hayseevas
to run raytzas
to save shemaras shav
to say oomeras
to see reyalas
to sell lemcoras
to sing sheras
to sit sayvas
to speak dooberas
to stand maydithas
to take kahas
to travel nensoatas
to think hooshevas
to understand mevinas
to want, to need, to desire retzelathas
to watch, to guard shemaras (accent on 3rd syllable)
to win zatheras
to write ktoovas


Colors:

black sekor
blue kehol
green yerak
orange tepook
red edom
white laban
brown soos
purple oorgmin
yellow tehoov



Expressions:

Excuse me Reyalan!

Goodbye Oo'good'toova!

Good day Yoom toova!

Good night Leiulia toova!

Hello!/Well met! Pelail!

Of course, certainly Bevoodai!

Thank you Dot'ooli!

You're welcome Bevoodai!

I'm sorry Silath ni
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