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PostAuthor: Xeo » Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:44 pm

Hello Team!

Just a few questions that i thought a seperate post fresh and clean for the TEAMS response... Hence reading Mr Orls post.
This is so i can get the teams view if i understand this God and RP before i start it if i will

T or F = True or False

First Question

Harpinger Lessor GOD:

1= Theres two ways you could worship the god in a Music way eg. Bard or the Messager of Death way T or F?

2= Now reading the description you RP in a IC way of Death to those who deserve it? T or F?

3= Does the god use you as a Solider or gives work for you do to eg go and kill someone cause hes been a naughty boy over a long period of time? T or F?

4= Who would tell me if so? Would i RP me just saying "God told me to do it!"

5= Would a DM ever be a Harpinger God to his follows? T or F?

6= What would the team recommend a structure to RP this out?


Just need help as i dont want to A: Fuck it up B: I think its a hard one to do C: I never really liked the gods in Avlis but this ones gets me going! 8)



Thanks Team......



Xeo

i thought the teams response's to this would be a good future guild line to those who might wish to go into this RP :D
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PostAuthor: Mistcaller » Fri Mar 19, 2004 1:03 pm

Does your question refer to a cleric or a simple worshipper?
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PostAuthor: Xeo » Fri Mar 19, 2004 1:10 pm

Worshipper..

My PC is a Necromancer who's lifes work is about Death and the Undead :wink:
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Re: Harpinger

PostAuthor: Demandred » Fri Mar 19, 2004 1:13 pm

Xeo Bodacea wrote:
3= Does the god use you as a Solider or gives work for you do to eg go and kill someone cause hes been a naughty boy over a long period of time? T or F?


That would make you the "Hand" of a good Deity, which Harpinger I think is not. Neither the messenger who kills people in the name of his Lord is an option I think, as Malekians or similar beliefs (Deities of slaughter, murder etc) believe in that.

IMHO the "..death to those who deserve.." part, speaks of death to those who are close to their end, and are tortured through their last moments, similar to the Kelemvor Deity approach form the FR pantheon. Meaning that such a character should seek sick, old near their end people and "gift" them with their Death (assumed they wish it, they pray, they ask the God of Death to relief them, he hears and delivers through his servants).

Death as a Deity is most of the times neutral, given an evil aspect cause of the "life taking" nature of its consept...

Again though, I would not believe that the servant of such a Deity would go on a killing spree, cause his God said so, this is closer to the Dagath Death divission, who spread Death to preserve the spirit circle Dagath speaks of...

The above is a personal opinion of course...

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PostAuthor: Xeo » Fri Mar 19, 2004 1:28 pm

Thats a was a good read and response... I am starting to become clear on that concept.. By the way i am not wanting to go down a killing spree in the name of my god etc etc... Just said that to make clear of a few things....


Hmm from what you said sounds very very interesting.. I hope the Team could add more of their views or opinions or information to help within my basic RP structure...


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PostAuthor: Xeo » Fri Mar 19, 2004 1:30 pm

The Harpinger
Alignment: CE
Worshippers Alignment: Any
Area of Control: Music, Messenger of Death

The Harpinger is a mysterious figure among the gods of Avlis. No one knows its true name, or even its gender. Most accounts of The Harpinger give a different description of what it looks like, depending on what function it was fullfilling at the time. Some have described it as a beautiful maiden in flowing light blue robes, carrying a magical harp which can charm even an elven onlooker. Others have told tales of The Harpinger appearing as some form of skeletal undead in tattered black robes, with a one-handed sickle hanging on its belt, and that good old trusty harp in its hands once more. Less common accounts have described encounters with a charismatic bard who seems to have an endless supply of tales to tell, set to music once more with a harp. Stories of a female bard of this same description are also told. The mystery of The Harpinger deepens when one considers its function. It is said that musical inspiration is granted by this entity. Bards who are looking to write a new tune often turn to The Harpinger with cautious prayer, for those who get too close often run into The Harpinger's other major function: the agent of Death. In this function, The Harpinger is said to be in charge of escorting a departed person's soul to their proper afterlife, making sure they arrive safely and then departing. Those who have been on the edge of death often tell tales of hearing a harp playing, and following the sound through a wide open grey area and a bright light, which seems to be the origin of the sound. When they pass through the light, they find themselves in the afterlife.

Some theories exist on the connection between inspiration and death. One theory put forth by The Harpinger's priests states that inspiration, especially musical inspiration, is granted directly to the soul by this entity. In order for the inspiration to come through, a person must loosen their bond with their own soul so that it may soar to the heights of the planes and receive the new gift. If this is true, then it would mean that The Harpinger is really just a keeper of souls, who insures that they go through their proper changes and receptions during the course of their life and death.

The Harpinger's followers can be everywhere. Many times they are bards, who devoutly pray to this deity as their source of musical skill. Other times, they are individuals who deal with death in one way or another, whether they are a murderer, or a white necromancer trying to insure that a patient does not die.

The Harpinger's clergy are also diverse in this respect. Many concern themselves with music, preferring to enrich the art itself. Some concern themselves with death, by either dealing it out swiftly to those they believe deserve it, or by insuring that proper internment rituals are performed on the deceased.

The Harpinger's symbol is that of an upright harp, with the straight edge of the harp being a blade. Colors are black when dealing with death, and light blue when dealing with music.
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PostAuthor: Xeo » Fri Mar 19, 2004 1:36 pm

Some concern themselves with death, by either dealing it out swiftly to those they believe deserve it,


this what prompt me to say on a killing spree or killing someone if you think they deserve it
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PostAuthor: Mistcaller » Fri Mar 19, 2004 2:01 pm

Here is my take on this: A follower of Harpringer is inspired by death, and express this inspiration either by music or by pretending to be death's agent.
A nwn example would be when a PC enters the bleeding script the follower of harpringer runs to his side to sing a song or to comfort him speaking some lines like : "Dont be afraid to die! Let Harpringer escort your soul to its destination."
A follower can also be a murder believing he is gifted with god's will to judge who deserves to die and when...

Something should be clarified here though. Gods will probably never speak to you, nor direct you to do something for them. But that does not mean you cannot "hear" their calling... (see Joan of Arc).

A God represents "something", which is usually an abstract idea or concept or a field of everyday's living.
His followers worship him, because of that. Because they prefer more what He represents than any other in a given deity pantheon. But how a worshipper interprets His God will and views is really subjective and thus hardly definable. Realistically, its up to the worshipper or up to the corresponding church/clergy to create a dogma and everyday activities. If they are wrong... then the God might re-direct them to a more appropriate path.
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PostAuthor: Xeo » Fri Mar 19, 2004 2:10 pm

*Makes Notes*

Could the TEAM supply me with 1000 Raise Dead scrolls?????


Its in the name of RP DAMN IT!

:D

I like the idea of being there to comfort to the path of his deth plane
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PostAuthor: Xeo » Fri Mar 19, 2004 2:20 pm

Now being Serious i like the idea of being able to create your own way of RPing under the god your own style etc etc if your doing something wrong then the priests would advise you etc etc


Seems interesting and i think i will go away and develop my own style of RP for this and if its wrong then i always listen to others views... I mean i have not met or seen one active priest or follower..... so far...


So this will be new to me....


Anymore adivce and posts welcomed
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